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Bard Skyshrine Armor - Name / Stats
After happening upon a random comment on Allakhazam, it looks somewhat likely that the Skyshrine armor for Bards was originally called Highsun armor.
From what I've read, the armor pieces were changed to include the Vah Shir race and at that point the name was also changed to Twilight. http://riku.game.coocan.jp/eq/brd/sov_armor.html http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5649 RE: Highsun vs. Twilight Quote Reply #Nov 10 2002 at 3:47 AMRating: Excellent ralkora 26 posts Highsun armor was renamed to be twilight. RE: Highsun vs. Twilight Quote Reply #Jan 14 2003 at 3:34 PMRating: Default valkyr * 105 posts Just being nosey, but why did they change the name? Were there other forces at work here or did they just not like the name? ____________________________ Jimdio Metallico RE: Highsun vs. Twilight Quote Reply #Apr 17 2003 at 7:49 AMRating: Decent danielwinks 9 posts Prolly had something to do with the fact that it didnt list Vah on the highsun, so they renamed it Twilight and added Vah shir. http://www.oocities.org/valmirvonreed/ArmorWri.htm http://alliance_of_mandl.tripod.com/...uest_armor.htm ...lists both Twilight and Highsun armor pieces, but the links no longer work for the latter as they were likely changed from classic. http://keepersoftheglade.com/forum/c...ne-bard-armor/ ...2006, again shows both types http://knightsofthewhiterose.yuku.com ...shows both types, with the helms having slightly different stats. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/arch...date_0301.html ...indicates some highsun armor was added in March 2001, approx 9 months before Shadows of Luclin was released. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/q...tml?quest=1116 Which is it? Reply #Oct 26 2001 at 8:28 PMRating: Default Anonymous Anonymous Ok, there are two rewards listed??? which one is it? Highsun or Twilight? would be helpful to know. RE: Which is it? Quote Reply #Jul 09 2002 at 2:44 AMRating: Excellent Anonymous Anonymous Twilight is the Skyshrine Bard armor. #Anonymous, Posted: Feb 05 2002 at 4:23 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) twighlite is the luclin quest armor i believe #Anonymous, Posted: Dec 04 2001 at 12:14 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Both rewards have the same stats... i belive It seems Highsun was the pre-Luclin version of Twilight armor? If anyone else remembers specifics or has more concrete information, please add below. Hoping this means no more armor that reminds people of those crap vampire movies. | ||
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Interestingly the early April '01 entry for the archived Allakhazam site displays both boots at the same time. As late as September 2001, at least, both sets of arms are still displayed together in the database. The earliest pictures of Twilight armor displays no Vah Shir race option. All of the few comments for Highsun boots are from late March. I could find no comments about Twilight pieces from earlier than April 2001, so the name change presumably took place no later than early April, and possibly earlier given the general delays involved with stuff being submitted and appearing on Allakhazam. Barring something more concrete I surmise that the name change occurred as part of the general modifications and upgrades to Velious loot which was ongoing during that period.
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Agreed, but then some of the item images on Alla seem questionable, for example...
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=7368 ...doesn't list VAH on a Luclin item and it's a classic UI which, afaik, had been phased out in Velious altogether. However, the comments suggest that Luclin's release was a mess all around, items included. BArD mistakes on behalf Verant. Quote Reply #Dec 18 2001 at 11:09 AMRating: Default Claritin 32 posts Anyhow I gotta rant. No songs work on Luclin launch day. No AE songs work still Vah Shir Illusion mask doesn't have human listed This doesn't have Vah Shir listed. They remove AE to Group-only on the stackable haste songs They need to do more testing in general.. but from now on they should pay special attention to bards since they ***** something up for us almost every patch. Good Flute Quote Reply #Dec 14 2001 at 9:40 PMRating: Default Sadiki * 66 posts What i would like to know is the added percentage to songs, and what mob drops this flute. By the way, kitties can't use Di'Zok Wristsnapper either, *cackle* ...so the devs simply forgot to add certain races to certain Luclin items. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5979 Just a tip... Quote Reply #Jan 11 2003 at 1:08 AMRating: Decent Adrenalynn Scholar 18 posts Got mine tonight, and yes, It's plate and Vah Shir (VAH)useable as well as the rest of the Twilight armor, the pic must be older than Luclin. Also the helm you get won't have a graphic, in order to get the graphic to appear you must go to Supreme Laochsmith Psonn, who you can find .. all the way up the Tower past the Quest Armor room .. its a trip even with Selo's. He will tell you ..."Using my obviously superior skills I can customize a plate helm from the Shrine to suit a (Your Class) such as yourself. Give me your Blood Lord's Crown, Scaled Knight's Helm, Helm of Twilight, Akkirus' Crown of the Risen, Cowl of Mortality, Frostreaver's Velium Crown, Crown of the Kromzek Kings, or Crown of the Myrmidon and I shall make you a new helm that will better hise and protect your unscaled features." No tricks, But you do need MAX ALLY faction to do these quests. Hope this helps 56th Bard, NGoH ____________________________ Adrenalynn Rush 70 Bard Sol Invictus Tribunal Vah shir Quote Reply #May 08 2002 at 12:16 PMRating: Decent Lerann 17 posts Does anyone know if these are vah shir wearable? I want to start a kitty bard but would like to have this armor to look forward too. Also, according to a post on Allakhazam, Highsun armor was yellow instead of Twilight's grey(?) and had inferior stats. Already Second Best Bard Breastplate Quote Reply #Feb 17 2001 at 3:26 AMRating: Default Anonymous Anonymous Leave it up to Afterlife to go and ruin everyone's fun. Thott gets all the bardic items before anyone. Check it out: http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/Highsun.jpg http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/Highsun-stats.gif http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4967 You want a REAL bard Breastplate? Quote Reply #May 06 2001 at 2:30 PMRating: Decent Anonymous Anonymous Resonant Breastplate MAGIC ITEM NO DROP AC: +42 Str: +8 Sta: +10 Dex: +10 Cha: +10 Magic Resist: +8 Fire Resist: +2 Cold Resist: +2 Poison Resist: +2 Disease Resist: +2 HP: +50 Weight: 9.0 Classes: Bard Races: Human Half Elf Wood Elf Inventory Slot: Chest Now look at this Breastplate of Twilight MAGIC ITEM NO DROP AC: +50 Str: +11 Sta: +11 Agi: +11 Cha: +11 Magic Resist: +10 Fire Resist: +5 Cold Resist: +5 Poison Resist: +5 Disease Resist: +5 HP: +60 Weight: 9.0 Classes: Bard Races: Human Half Elf Wood Elf Inventory Slot: Chest The hardest quest are the skyshrine quests which gives you Highsun Boots, Bracer, Helm, and Vambraces. There is also skyshrine quests for Twilight armor. I don't know which is better because there is no such thing as a highsun bp and no such thing as a twilight helm so maybe there is a connection between the two. Same set of armor different names? they come from the same place. I thought there was only one type of skyshrine armor per class. Hmmmmmm Mumuflubu RE: You want a REAL bard Breastplate? Quote Reply #May 25 2002 at 2:32 PMRating: Excellent stpnwlf Scholar 43 posts The name of the bard Skyshrine armor was changed from Highsun to Twilight some months back. There is no quest for Highsun armor now. Only Twilight. So one player is obviously incorrect in saying that there was no Highsun BP but he also says both types are available for bards. Also, interesting to note, that Twilight Sea came out in Luclin zone with its own Twilight armor sets, except each had specific names and bard's was called Bravado's. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/q....html?zone=133 That could be the reason for the armor's name change, though it only adds to the confusion more. Will do some more digging around, thanks Danth. | ||
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http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5564
what the hell Quote Reply #Apr 22 2001 at 9:13 AMRating: Default Anonymous Anonymous im a lvl 39 bard and people seriously dont ***** about bards not needing dex WE NEED DEX TO MAKE OUR SONGS BETTER this would be insane for a bard from lvl 1 to 45 then at 46 its plane armour and Singing steel and then at like 50 its questing for the Thurgadin kael and skyshrine armour Oh yes i got bp legs arms and helm of Thurgadin armou rand im almost finished with the Highsun armour woot! | ||
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This is something that we can change, but I had trouble finding actual links for the breastplate and legs.
I saw several mentions of the Helm, Boots, Bracer, and Vambraces. And that Highsun armor was originally a bright bright yellow guardian armor before it changed to Twilight. This still needs more information for a timeline and detail. | ||
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When I search the Allakhazam archives for July 2001 (the earliest capture that seems to show Velious quest armor, the screenshots all seem to be from April 2001 though), I see no Highsun for Chest or Legs, as Nilbog mentioned, but I do see Twilight armor:
The screenshots don't feature Vahshir in the race list, so that theory seems to be out. https://web.archive.org/web/20010711...html?item=5648 https://web.archive.org/web/20010711...html?item=5615 https://web.archive.org/web/20010711...html?item=5649 I see Highsun vambraces, submitted a bit earlier (by a couple of weeks) than the Twilight armor: https://web.archive.org/web/20010711...html?item=5297 I'm not sure when or if Twilight replaced Highsun. But Twilight seemed to become available relatively early in Velious, maybe even from the start? Muddy issue. | ||
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And yet, the Helm of Twilight is listed as being in the Scars of Velious expansion on Allakhazam as well as other sites... https://web.archive.org/web/20040229...html?item=5979 Quote:
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http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/Highsun.jpg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/...hsun-stats.gif [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] It appears that the commenter at the top of this post was incorrect in saying that the breastplate had 50ac (which is actually the armor count for the Breastplate of Twilight), but they did provide a rough estimate of when the change from highsun to twilight occurred. It seems plausible that this change occurred before many bards were able to collect the required turn-ins and complete the full set. Still, there is no information about the greaves, assuming they existed. More research later as it becomes available. | |||||||||||
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https://web.archive.org/web/20010826...mparisons.html
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Here's a Legacy of Steel picture of a skyshrine breastplate from April 21, 2001
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] https://legacyofsteel.net/archive/2001-04-21 (Sorry for the caption haha.) Quote:
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