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Old 06-28-2023, 10:19 AM
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The title of the thread is "best trio for self farm gear."

That means this trio wants to go into dungeons and camp their own gear as they level. They aren't twinked and they aren't shopping in EC for items. This isn't "what trio is best for farming at 60."

The answer is enchanter, cleric, monk. Having the ability to rez starting at 29 is massive for this specific setup/ruleset as deaths are an inevitability.

I will say all iksar shaman/monk/necro would also be good for this. Double FD, double gate, corpse summons / rezzes later on. And since post #3 of this thread is the OP asking if the cleric can be subbed for the shaman, I would probably steer his group towards this setup.

Not nearly as strong in the later stages as clr/enc/monk but a better option if nobody among the trio is capable of piloting a severely under-geared enchanter.
Shaman/monk/nec has bone chips for days on their doorstep as well as iksar berserker club for the shaman/monk. Loads of interesting options 20+ too. Eventually dalnir and kaeaora for some self gearing. I think they may start to struggle in the 50s for decent self gear on the monk?
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Old 06-28-2023, 10:27 AM
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Shaman/monk/nec has bone chips for days on their doorstep as well as iksar berserker club for the shaman/monk. Loads of interesting options 20+ too. Eventually dalnir and kaeaora for some self gearing. I think they may start to struggle in the 50s for decent self gear on the monk?
If you are in Kunark Monks are well off in terms of droppable weapons. Just go to CoM and get https://wiki.project1999.com/Wu%27s_Quivering_Staff .

You can upgrade to an https://wiki.project1999.com/Imbued_Fighters_Staff once your group can do Seb.

Armor-wise there aren't a ton of options for Monks, so they will be suffering a bit more in that department. If your group is brave enough, you can farm the https://wiki.project1999.com/Crescent_Armor_Set in Dalnir.
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Old 06-28-2023, 10:33 AM
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Yeah, WQS is great. That is 40s attainable. I’m more talking velious content worthy AC / hp gears

No fire wedding rings without enc if strict.
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Yeah, WQS is great. That is 40s attainable. I’m more talking velious content worthy AC / hp gears

No fire wedding rings without enc if strict.
True, you won't have the standard 160-200HP from rings and earrings.

You could make a stop in lguk for 2x Adamantite Bands. The -10MR sucks, but you can take them off when fighting casters.
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Old 06-28-2023, 11:09 AM
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Old 06-28-2023, 01:06 PM
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1) The Shaman/Necro/Monk trio is severely crippled in the long run without an Enchanter if they're focusing on dungeons. Untwinked/self-found Monk will be dying left and right while trying to split casters. No Cleric to rez, either! No bueno. It's a very workable trio, to be sure, but not ideal for this specific scenario.
2) Monks are obviously not a terrible choice to level untwinked, but absolutely pale in comparison to the capability of an untwinked Necro.
3) Ench/Cleric/Nec shits all over any other trio in in terms of a power curve for this scenario. They start strong, even with no gear, and remain strong all the way to 60. Further, they have ALL the tools they need to operate very safely in dungeons. Tons of DPS, CC out the wazoo, loads of healing, multiple rezzes, snare, FD. No other trio comes close to what Ench/Cler/Nec brings to the table.
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Old 06-28-2023, 03:17 PM
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Mana check?
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Old 06-29-2023, 04:58 PM
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1) The Shaman/Necro/Monk trio is severely crippled in the long run without an Enchanter if they're focusing on dungeons. Untwinked/self-found Monk will be dying left and right while trying to split casters. No Cleric to rez, either! No bueno. It's a very workable trio, to be sure, but not ideal for this specific scenario.
2) Monks are obviously not a terrible choice to level untwinked, but absolutely pale in comparison to the capability of an untwinked Necro.
3) Ench/Cleric/Nec shits all over any other trio in in terms of a power curve for this scenario. They start strong, even with no gear, and remain strong all the way to 60. Further, they have ALL the tools they need to operate very safely in dungeons. Tons of DPS, CC out the wazoo, loads of healing, multiple rezzes, snare, FD. No other trio comes close to what Ench/Cler/Nec brings to the table.
Necro fd pulling is gonna have a hard time
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Old 06-29-2023, 05:00 PM
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It would be slow as fuck xp without a real puller/tank. only a necro would take this line of thought. dudes trippin
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Old 06-29-2023, 06:14 PM
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Necro fd pulling is gonna have a hard time
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It would be slow as fuck xp without a real puller/tank. only a necro would take this line of thought. dudes trippin
What are they going to be regularly pulling that can't be pacified?
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