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Old 12-17-2022, 12:45 PM
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The bottom line is having a huge pool of low skill laborers willing to work ILLEGALLY (not legal to hire them) is detrimental to low skill labor wages for every job they are interested in taking, which will pretty much be ANY job offered to them

But Dems, the party of Teh Working Class don’t give a shit about that because hey, cheap labor good for our companies
It's either immigants(money sometimes stays in US) or guest workers(money always exits US)
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Old 12-17-2022, 12:46 PM
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u cant give immigrants (or the lower class) $10 a banana tho they will quickly be able to afford land again so its best to try and fix the price of bananas at $2 a banana and sue ppl for using monsanto bananas
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Old 12-17-2022, 12:49 PM
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The bottom line is having a huge pool of low skill laborers willing to work ILLEGALLY (not legal to hire them) is detrimental to low skill labor wages for every job they are interested in taking, which will pretty much be ANY job offered to them

But Dems, the party of Teh Working Class don’t give a shit about that because hey, cheap labor good for our companies
That is Capitalism. You are arguing for socialism; no matter what the job is get paid enough.
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Old 12-17-2022, 12:55 PM
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u cant give immigrants (or the lower class) $10 a banana tho they will quickly be able to afford land again so its best to try and fix the price of bananas at $2 a banana and sue ppl for using monsanto bananas
We grow more food than our farming labor can harvest.

What the hell else should we do to bring it in?
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Old 12-17-2022, 12:56 PM
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That is Capitalism. You are arguing for socialism; no matter what the job is get paid enough.
Paid enough to want to work it

Just because you don’t think $16/hour picking fruit or cleaning toilets is enough, some poor black American might

Don’t twist my words to say “enough to live on”, that shit is a cop out I will never say this because everyone has different standards of living and most people who complain about jobs not paying “enough to live on” have terrible fucking budgeting

We are talking enough to entice an American to take the job. But it will never get that high because they can hire Jose to clean the toilet for $3/hour ILLEGALLY, thus screwing the poor black American citizen out of a chance to earn some income that isn’t welfare

And that’s assuming Jose can even get the job for $3/hour. Maybe he doesn’t and then his life is sitting in a sleeping bag (hopefully not outside your neighborhood right? NOT IN MY BACKYARD) waiting for his free church meal at 6pm every day for the rest of his life. What a great American Dream life. And yes probably still better than the shithole he came from, not arguing that
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Old 12-17-2022, 12:59 PM
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Paid enough to want to work it

Just because you don’t think $16/hour picking fruit or cleaning toilets is enough, some poor black American might

Don’t twist my words to say “enough to live on”, that shit is a cop out I will never say this because everyone has different standards of living and most people who complain about jobs not paying “enough to live on” have terrible fucking budgeting

We are talking enough to entice an American to take the job. But it will never get that high because they can hire Jose to clean the toilet for $3/hour ILLEGALLY, thus screwing the poor black American citizen out of a chance to earn some income that isn’t welfare

And that’s assuming Jose can even get the job for $3/hour. Maybe he doesn’t and then his life is sitting in a sleeping bag (hopefully not outside your neighborhood right? NOT IN MY BACKYARD) waiting for his free church meal at 6pm every day for the rest of his life. What a great American Dream life. And yes probably still better than the shithole he came from, not arguing that
Americans benefit by eating (some of) the cheaply harvested food.
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Americans benefit by eating the cheaply harvested food.
Finding an excuse to do an illegal activity is terrible ethics IMO

My friends benefit from me driving them home drunk by not having to pitch in for an Uber
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Old 12-17-2022, 01:01 PM
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Finding an excuse to do an illegal activity is terrible ethics IMO
Morality, ethics, or legalism? 🐼
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Old 12-17-2022, 01:02 PM
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Morality, ethics, or legalism? 🐼
It’s illegal and has negative ripple effects but because I can find one possible positive none of the other stuff matters

Let’s do this for all our laws
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It’s illegal and has negative ripple effects but because I can find one possible positive none of the other stuff matters

Let’s do this for all our laws
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