#781
|
||||
|
Quote:
__________________
Shamwowi Wipesalot (60 SHM) | Bazgek Bonebreaker (60 SK) | Sznake Pliszken (52 MNK) | Laanfear (30 ENC)
Do you have questions about Shaman races? Read my guide: https://wiki.project1999.com/Shamwow...man_Race_Guide Want to see Shaman videos? Check out my youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFU...zEFJVBIH3-jUog | |||
Last edited by DeathsSilkyMist; 02-16-2024 at 06:36 PM..
|
#782
|
|||
|
You know what … the will admit there is always plausibility in explanation 1 regarding randomness. On this front I will tentatively give you the benefit of the doubt DSM. If you have not lied, I apologize … and I mean it.
You will find posts from me on these very forums citing the difficulty with defensive parsing. It is a lot more difficult than parsing damage output. My BENCHMARK for parsing the value of ac on live before I quit and came here was measured in hours, not minutes. You needed 2-3 hours minimum to start to even out the RNG. You needed 10-12 before you had calculable confidence in the results. My parses here were too short for any level of confidence as were yours. If you have posted your information honestly, I do legitimately apologize. I ain’t gonna run with one example and paint you as dishonest. Of all my criticisms (communicated openly or otherwise) I have never suspected you of being willfully dishonest in the past.
__________________
| ||
#783
|
||||
|
Quote:
You have admitted that your parser doesn't work well in certain situations, which is why I am skeptical your parser specifically, not the data you are posting. If the parser is off you are not a liar, it's just a bug with the software.
__________________
Shamwowi Wipesalot (60 SHM) | Bazgek Bonebreaker (60 SK) | Sznake Pliszken (52 MNK) | Laanfear (30 ENC)
Do you have questions about Shaman races? Read my guide: https://wiki.project1999.com/Shamwow...man_Race_Guide Want to see Shaman videos? Check out my youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFU...zEFJVBIH3-jUog | |||
#784
|
|||
|
So yes if you posted your data in good faith and honestly, I apologize. I crossed a line. If that is the case, it only demonstrates that neither of us had sufficient time logged or evidence to draw any actual conclusions from any data that was recorded.
I do not like you. But I apologize for calling you a liar if you were being honest. That is my foul and I’ll own it honestly.
__________________
| ||
#785
|
|||||||
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Code:
#! python3 import sys def process(): results = [] for line in sys.stdin: results.append(int(line.strip())) print("total damage: {0}".format(sum(results))) if __name__ == '__main__': process() Edit: I suspect the discrepancy is because DSM is dividing over the full 22 Min 24 Sec time, forgetting to remove the time spent recovering between fights. Note that fight 1 ends at 21:19:32 and fight 2 starts at 21:21:28 - about two minutes. | ||||||
Last edited by bcbrown; 02-16-2024 at 06:53 PM..
|
#786
|
|||
|
Edit: I just finished my third beer (2nd since last lengthy post). I’m gonna sober up before talking.
As coherent as I think I am, I am likely certainly less …
__________________
| ||
Last edited by Troxx; 02-16-2024 at 06:59 PM..
|
#787
|
||||
|
Quote:
EDIT: So it is possible both Troxx and I are correct. The giants might have closer to 14 DPS, but they spend up to 20% of their time running away, dealing no damage. In my example I tried to re-root them, but JBB likes to break root. 14 x 0.8 = 11.2. Anybody who is soloing is going to capitalize on mobs fleeing so they can save HP. I did the same thing on PoM Rats. You just pull them to an area where no other Rats are, and they will flee at 20%.
__________________
Shamwowi Wipesalot (60 SHM) | Bazgek Bonebreaker (60 SK) | Sznake Pliszken (52 MNK) | Laanfear (30 ENC)
Do you have questions about Shaman races? Read my guide: https://wiki.project1999.com/Shamwow...man_Race_Guide Want to see Shaman videos? Check out my youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFU...zEFJVBIH3-jUog | |||
Last edited by DeathsSilkyMist; 02-16-2024 at 07:18 PM..
|
#788
|
|||
|
[Thu Feb 15 21:15:13 2024] Eldak Howlingbear kicks YOU
[Thu Feb 15 21:19:32 2024] Eldak Howlingbear tries to hit YOU, but misses! [Thu Feb 15 21:19:32 2024] You have slain Eldak Howlingbear! <<<2:01 elapses>>> [Thu Feb 15 21:21:33 2024] Mentrax Mountainbone hits YOU [Thu Feb 15 21:25:28 2024] Mentrax Mountainbone bashes YOU for 36 points of damage. [Thu Feb 15 21:25:37 2024] You have slain Mentrax Mountainbone! <<<2:22 elapses>>> [Thu Feb 15 21:26:59 2024] Eldak Howlingbear bashes YOU [Thu Feb 15 21:32:19 2024] Eldak Howlingbear tries to hit YOU, but misses! [Thu Feb 15 21:32:19 2024] You have slain Eldak Howlingbear! <<<1:12 elapses>>> [Thu Feb 15 21:33:31 2024] Mentrax Mountainbone bashes YOU [Thu Feb 15 21:37:37 2024] Mentrax Mountainbone hits YOU for 140 points of damage. [Thu Feb 15 21:37:42 2024] You have slain Mentrax Mountainbone! That's 5:35 time elapsed while recovering that should not be included in DPS estimates. If we change the fight calculation time to be from first hit by mob until last hit by mob, then: Fight 1 takes 4:20 Fight 2 takes 3:55 Fight 3 takes 5:20 Fight 4 takes 4:06 Total time fighting is 17:41 total damage is 8478 + 7030 = 15508 Final DPS is 14.6 | ||
#789
|
||||
|
Quote:
It is possible both Troxx and I are correct. The giants might have closer to 14 DPS while they are swinging, but in a real scenario of XPing they spend up to 20% of their time running away, dealing no damage. In my example I tried to re-root them as they were fleeing, but JBB likes to break root. 14 x 0.8 = 11.2. Anybody who is soloing is going to capitalize on mobs fleeing so they can save HP. I did the same thing on PoM Rats. You just pull them to an area where no other Rats are, and they will flee at 20%. If the mob does 14 DPS for 80% of the fight, and then 0 DPS for 20% of the fight, that still averages out to a lower DPS, because you cannot claim that you took 14 DPS for the time when the mob is fleeing. It lowers the average DPS across the whole fight.
__________________
Shamwowi Wipesalot (60 SHM) | Bazgek Bonebreaker (60 SK) | Sznake Pliszken (52 MNK) | Laanfear (30 ENC)
Do you have questions about Shaman races? Read my guide: https://wiki.project1999.com/Shamwow...man_Race_Guide Want to see Shaman videos? Check out my youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFU...zEFJVBIH3-jUog | |||
#790
|
|||
|
There have to be more variables than that though. It should not be doing 14dps to 2 separate level 60 shamans with one shaman having 103 raw ac and be swinging a 2 hander (ripostes) and the other having 187 raw ac and not attacking while using a shield.
Unless ripostes do not exist (they do) and all our understandings about ac (raw vs shield) are entirely false .. it is not possible. Unless there was insufficient data from either of us to draw any meaningful conclusion.
__________________
| ||
Last edited by Troxx; 02-16-2024 at 07:28 PM..
|
|
|