Monk 2hb trick (with epic)

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Shovel parses around ~85-90 dps

Whaaat? Is this like 'while innerflamed' or 'against kor shamans in sebilis' ?

[Wed Feb 10 13:39:54 2016] Azeth tells the guild, 'Derakor the Vindicator in 151s, 189k @1252 --- Azeth 22k@(152 in 148s) --- Kinglance 15k@(103 in 147s) --- Raevin 14k@(98 in 146s) --- Domoh 14k@(98 in 145s) --- Fuge 14k@(93 in 146s) --- Bruize 10k@(76 in 138s) --- Carlossal 10k@(72 in 145s) --- Raev 10k@(67 in 148s) --- Dianamel 10k@(67 in 148s) --- Stonefists 10k@(76 in 125s)'
[Sat Feb 13 10:53:51 2016] Azeth tells the guild, 'Derakor the Vindicator in 116s, 176k @1519 --- Braq 15k@(127 in 115s) --- Kinglance 13k@(114 in 116s) --- Azeth 11k@(100 in 114s) --- Seedss 11k@(92 in 116s) --- Hermaphroditey 11k@(94 in 113s) --- Stabatani 10k@(88 in 114s) --- Rikas 9k@(87 in 106s) --- Raev 8k@(66 in 116s) --- Zerious 7k@(64 in 116s) --- Berkeley 7k@(64 in 107s)'

I'm usually somewhere in the 60-70 range with two 13/20 primal battlehammers. My sperglord calculator suggests that the Shovel should be about the same minus the Avatar part, so 50-60 dps. Actually, it thinks the Shovel, primal hammers, bo staff, tstaff, and epic/sos are all within a few % of each other.

[Man0warr]

I think I've hit ~110 dps with Innerflame on a 32k dragon (Nexona I believe) that died in 25ish seconds.

I honestly don't parse that much, so that 85 dps figure might be the high end. The Shovel is pretty inconsistent on short fights.

[jpetrick]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The most efficient thing would to swap in IFS as soon as the delay cooldown is up. That's pretty labor intensive so I've been popping IFS in/out and let time epic go back into full quad mode before popping IFS back in. It's less dps that way but also a lot less clicks and attention required while still being more dps than raw dual wield with epic/SoS.

Tstaff would be more dps than IFS, but to maximize it you'd have to click/swap 25-30% compared to IFS more frequently ... Which is a pain.

I won a T Staff but sold it. For its plat value and the upgrades it could buy ... I was not impressed with the weapon (and it was heavy).

You are weapon swapping the hard way. Keep your staff in your hands and take it out to swing with your off hand. No wonder you have issues doing it. You are trying to time something within .8 seconds (assuming 100% haste). That's so much harder than unequipping the staff to swing your epic fist offhand.

[SowIsLifeSowIsLove]

So should I be watching for the monks offhand swing or the actual text of the swing? I notice quite a bit that when I remove the IFS for the offhand swing nothingness happens. I don't have epic so maybe there wasn't enough time for the delay to catch up? Thoughts?

[jpetrick]

Originally Posted by SowIsLifeSowIsLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So should I be watching for the monks offhand swing or the actual text of the swing? I notice quite a bit that when I remove the IFS for the offhand swing nothingness happens. I don't have epic so maybe there wasn't enough time for the delay to catch up? Thoughts?

Weapon swapping is based on swinging your offhand. Dual wield percentage in other words. Dual Wield skill + level / 400 is the formula.

You won't swing your offhand every time you weapon swap.

I used to watch the text when I was learning the timing. You may find it easier to actually watch for the animation.

I have never weapon swapped with an IFS but with a t-staff I take the staff out for maybe half a second before replacing it. I have 81% haste without VoG. Your timing window might be longer. The offhand should go off immediately with an epic fist, I would imagine it is the same even with no epic fist.

Dual wield works independently of the main hand. This is why a very low delay offhand can generate a lot of attacks.

[thewrush]

Or...................................

You can just not try to swap and let the thing do its thing?

Push Q, watch numbers. Simple.

[jpetrick]

Originally Posted by thewrush [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or...................................

You can just not try to swap and let the thing do its thing?

Push Q, watch numbers. Simple.

Use 1 handers if you play lazy like this.

Thanks for adding something productive to the discussion though.

[Colgate]

feels good having a gharn's and not having to play autismquest for an extra 4 damage per second

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

feels good having a gharn's and not having to play autismquest for an extra 4 damage per second

i thought this thread was about blue server FTE rules [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Nilasbik]

What parse program are you using?