1h weapons are ookie dookie butter

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would like to ask, then:

I have a Jeldorin and an Iceflame on my paladin. Is Iceflame worth using over Jeldorin in any situation at the moment?

Iceflame is 2H, it has a slightly higher ratio, and a damage proc. It should out DPS your Jeldorin.

You can always use Jeldorin while tanking for extra heals, or on mobs that are running away to try and get a lucky proc, assuming it is safe to allow the mob to run.

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would like to ask, then:

I have a Jeldorin and an Iceflame on my paladin. Is Iceflame worth using over Jeldorin in any situation at the moment?

19/24 1h = .791666 raw ratio

35/44 2h =.7954545 raw ratio

1-30 = Jeldorin (due to damage cap)


Sample Level: 50

19/24 + 8 dmg bonus = 1.91666 modified ratio
35/44 + 16 dmg bonus = 1.9545 modified ratio

sample level: 55

19/24 + 10 dmg bonus = 2.0 modified ratio
35/44 + 26 dmg bonus = 2.1818 modified ratio

https://lucy.allakhazam.com/dmgbonus.html?setcookie=1


Concensus:
There are very few situations I would use an Iceflame over a Jeldorin. It's a 500p weapon, the jeld is around 15-20k. It's apples to orangutans.

The heal proc is substantial for the ratio difference, certainly over the 60dd or whatever the iceflame will produce.

If comparing the Jeldorin to the Reaver or another 1.0+ ratio 2h, that is different. It's still a 8k (on blue) weapon though which is like 1/3rd a jeld. The jeld remains one of the better tanking weapons for a paladin. It's 75hps at 60 (50hp 5 stamina), you get to bash and use a shield, it heals you. As a weapon to attack random raid targets it's not great. I accidentally didnt equip my 2h one time on Dain and my Jeldorin did 25dps . That's on par with most bards.

[Gloomlord]

Thanks for the replies.

Also, I'm on Green.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would like to ask, then:

I have a Jeldorin and an Iceflame on my paladin. Is Iceflame worth using over Jeldorin in any situation at the moment?

Ratio is nearly identical.
-The iceflame will do more damage due to 2h dmg bonus and the minor contributions of the proc.
-The 1hander gives you 60-76 more hp (plus whatever stats/ac on your shield) and a 162hp heal proc

This is a scenario where I would say the 1h option is clearly better any time you are tanking … by a college mile. With bad dexterity and only 1 proc per minute it can result in better passive combat healing than wearing a a fungi.

I’d only break out the iceflame if you find yourself in a position where you aren’t tanking and are only dpsing.

Save up for a Narandi Lance [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Snaggles]

On blues bash damage actually is something. It’s not great but if splitting hairs on ratio would tip it even further for the Jeldorin.

I agree though. Narandi or Reaver and keep the Jeldorin for other stuff. A carved Dragonbone Spear (25/30) would be a nice one to train up for a Narandi.

[Gloomlord]

Then I assume, once I do net myself a Narandi Lance, that Jeldorin is still worth using in a group situation for essentially being the "fungi sword"?

Right now, I'm saving up for a Spiked Seahorse Belt. Should I scrap that to net myself a Narandi Lance sooner?

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then I assume, once I do net myself a Narandi Lance, that Jeldorin is still worth using in a group situation for essentially being the "fungi sword"?

Right now, I'm saving up for a Spiked Seahorse Belt. Should I scrap that to net myself a Narandi Lance sooner?

Not sure if you raid but try to either get or MQ the sky belt. Bet it rots a lot which will give you better haste and focus on getting pally epic. It’s not that hard, it’s a great all around weapon with a solid proc and also gives you 2h bash. Lance looks like ass.

[Gloomlord]

I don't raid at the moment. Being an Australian isn't kind to me on an American centric server. So, I think Narandi's or that belt are possibly the best option at the moment.

[Balimon]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't raid at the moment. Being an Australian isn't kind to me on an American centric server. So, I think Narandi's or that belt are possibly the best option at the moment.

You could buy a pally sky belt MQ on green for less than a Seahorse belt, they aren't that rare or expensive at all. The extra Haste is worth it! Narandi's lance is a good choice but there are some other cheaper options as well if you want an upgrade sooner, can always resell later to get the Lance.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Argent_Protector

Can prolly get that for 4k or less

[Snaggles]

There will be times bash is handy to have. Some stuff in seb can CH or gate and your cast stuns aren’t always a guarantee so it basically gives two coin-flips instead of one.

You could solo or group just with a Narandi. As a single weapon it’s better than the epic or the Jeldorin (especially soloing). They do have situational uses though. I’d always have a 1h/shield on me even if it’s a Velks sword or a Sword of the Morning. The Jeld is just by far the most Gucci tank weapon you can buy.