the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Wrekt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look up the paradox of tolerance and if youre not too stupid to understand, it will help you.

In 1919, Popper became attracted by Marxism and subsequently joined the Association of Socialist School Students. He also became a member of the Social Democratic Workers' Party of Austria, which was at that time a party that fully adopted the Marxist ideology.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Wrekt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this meme is fucked. Capitalism should have a pile of bodies with 1 live person on top

this is plainly ridiculous

[Rethalis]

Originally Posted by Wrekt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Drug use is not a criminal issue, its a health issue.

There is a good chance one will do something criminal while high on meth.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Wrekt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

now i see the problem. You have no clue about anything. The war on drugs is just a continuation of slavery. The government pumped drugs into poor, black and brown communities to finance contra and other stupid shit. Then ramped up prosecution of those people.

Drug use is not a criminal issue, its a health issue.

Drug use can be a health issue, it can also cause criminal actions such as theft and assault as a direct result of addiction and intoxication, but not for all users

We have a right to choose not to seek treatment for “health issues” and that includes drug use. So if someone is using drugs to the point where the drug is causing them to become a danger to themselves or the community, and also don’t want any help, then the legal system has to get involved

Nowadays that is in the form of drug courts which offer either treatment or jail, it’s up to the user

That’s about as good as it’s going to get here in America. I know you can point at different EU countries with entirely different cultures that also don’t share a border with the biggest distributer of drugs on planet earth, but sorry, different countries are different

Here in America, the idea that all people can be talked into voluntarily detoxing from their illegal hard drug of choice and going into a rehab program is a fairy tale sort of like the other Marxist utopias you imagine in your own mind

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by Wrekt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

now i see the problem. You have no clue about anything. The war on drugs is just a continuation of slavery. The government pumped drugs into poor, black and brown communities to finance contra and other stupid shit. Then ramped up prosecution of those people.

Drug use is not a criminal issue, its a health issue.

Who did the sackler family target? Blacks and browns? Nope

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Drug use can be a health issue, it can also cause criminal actions such as theft and assault as a direct result of addiction and intoxication, but not for all users

We have a right to choose not to seek treatment for “health issues” and that includes drug use. So if someone is using drugs to the point where the drug is causing them to become a danger to themselves or the community, and also don’t want any help, then the legal system has to get involved

Nowadays that is in the form of drug courts which offer either treatment or jail, it’s up to the user

That’s about as good as it’s going to get here in America. I know you can point at different EU countries with entirely different cultures that also don’t share a border with the biggest distributer of drugs on planet earth, but sorry, different countries are different

Here in America, the idea that all people can be talked into voluntarily detoxing from their illegal hard drug of choice and going into a rehab program is a fairy tale sort of like the other Marxist utopias you imagine in your own mind

It shouldn’t be voluntary

You fail a piss test you’re shipped to my ranch and I’ll cure you. Painfully and slowly

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Kaveh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It shouldn’t be voluntary

You fail a piss test you’re shipped to my ranch and I’ll cure you. Painfully and slowly

I saw this article about homelessness in Portland causing an exodus of people who had houses near where new homeless camps had sprung up

A homeless person was interviewed and said something like “why don’t they trust us? Just because we don’t live behind four walls?”

And it’s like…no…it’s the drugs. It’s always been the drugs. That’s why they don’t trust you

[Domo]

who would do better?

if the republicans would have full power for 50 years, how would your country look like?
Also how would your country look like if the democrats would have full power for 50 years?

(I know i will trigger stupid answers with this, but thats the plan)

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Domo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

who would do better?

if the republicans would have full power for 50 years, how would your country look like?
Also how would your country look like if the democrats would have full power for 50 years?

(I know i will trigger stupid answers with this, but thats the plan)

That's a great question

I don't know enough about each's specific economic and policy goals to answer it. But from a very general perspective, and excuse the gender-normativity of this very general explanation, but I've always felt like the left is like the mom and the right is like the dad in how they behave. The right is big on "tough love", law and order, personal responsibility, and minimal assistance. The left is big on nurturing, empathy, and support

So in terms of what side would have the quickest beneficial impact? I would say the left. In any "tough love" scenario, where you have a kid who has these negative behaviors you want to stop, so you start putting some boundaries on him, things tend to get worse, sometimes much worse, before they get better

So my very cursory answer would be the left would have an immediate and very noticeable beneficial impact, which might go down as the years go by. And the right would have a very negative initial impact, which might improve as the years go by

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Domo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

who would do better?

if the republicans would have full power for 50 years, how would your country look like?
Also how would your country look like if the democrats would have full power for 50 years?

(I know i will trigger stupid answers with this, but thats the plan)

well the republicans turn the nation into a Christian nation and execute everyone in the world that doesn't worship the aliens that they introduce us to.

if the democrats win world war III causes billions of deaths and we are all forced to join some bug eating global cult that introduces us to aliens.