The overt racism and other hate speech is a bit much

[Encroaching Death]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a fellow guy who's just asking questions, you can appreciate me wanting to understand exactly what issues you're trying to bring attention to that are getting you labeled as a racist by other people.

I just listed some.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Encroaching Death [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just listed some.

Wonkie talking about AAPI hate? Opiate use, alcoholism and gang violence lol be real with us.

[Encroaching Death]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wonkie talking about AAPI hate? Opiate use, alcoholism and gang violence lol be real with us.

Yes.

I've been called a racist for being concerned about Oxy addiction (even though I was addicted and 4 of my childhood friends OD'ed and died) because it's a "white problem".

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wonkie talking about AAPI hate? Opiate use, alcoholism and gang violence lol be real with us.

Originally Posted by Encroaching Death [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There could be a deadly virus that kills millions and you people would act like it never existed if somehow acknowledging it was potentially harmful to some minority group.

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[Basanos]

Originally Posted by Encroaching Death [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See? That's what I'm talking about.

The issue isn't a race. If a real problem that destroys people's live exists and it involves a particular group, it's widely ignored for political purposes.

And yes, this even applies to white people and opiate use, or native people and alcoholism, or black people and gang violence.

Any attempt to solve these issues instantly gets cast as 'racist', so people avoid it like the plague, since it's apparently better to avoid being called a racist than actually try and solve an issue in the world that is destroying people.

This is why I always harp on systemic issues.

Pointing to the various statistics of whatever form of crime or bad behavior can be useful, but the right (Democrat or Republican) almost always frames issues such as this in a racist or classist way. Courts and law enforcement are biased enough as they are, no specific policy targeting a specific group for some news-drenched perception of crime is going to work unless the goal is mass riots.

Nobody ever seems to want to talk about the causes of these things. It's too damn complex. Even if I accept the common right-wing argument that it's about a 'lack of fathers in the home' or whatever, what do we do about that, and how?

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Encroaching Death [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes.

I've been called a racist for being concerned about Oxy addiction (even though I was addicted and 4 of my childhood friends OD'ed and died) because it's a "white problem".

I'm sure the reason people keep accusing you of being a racist is because you're bringing up opiate addiction [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Encroaching Death]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sure the reason people keep accusing you of being a racist is because you're bringing up opiate addiction [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes. It is.

I bring it up because it's an issue I'm close to but you people think I only bring it up because it largely affects white people.

You're too busy assuming, just as you are now.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Basanos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even if I accept the common right-wing argument that it's about a 'lack of fathers in the home' or whatever, what do we do about that, and how?

Good question. How do you suggest to people a particular way of life in a way that makes them want to do it? Is that even possible in this day and age

I had mentioned a monetary incentive to get legally married or maybe even just for co-habitating

But option 1 above, explaining the benefits to people to try to convince them to try isn’t a ridiculous idea, even if it would probably have a very low success rate

[Ekco]

it takes a village, but half the village should prolly be burned for witchcraft. I'm looking forward to seeing how it all plays out.

[Encroaching Death]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it takes a village, but half the village should prolly be burned for witchcraft. I'm looking forward to seeing how it all plays out.

It takes a village and no one realizes a village exists around them.