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Old 02-10-2025, 05:08 AM
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People were more interested in fashion and stats on live. A cool look was a big deal for dress up elf SIM players.

Were all a bit more practical now.
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Old 02-10-2025, 08:32 AM
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I too valued perceived stats and colour coordination more than something silly as a 20AC chest piece...

What a newb.
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Old 02-10-2025, 12:31 PM
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I love my Ogre Shaman in his fungi

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Doesn’t it look like a fishnet top? Like you’re on your way to an underground German BDSM sex party?
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Old 02-10-2025, 12:55 PM
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Doesn’t it look like a fishnet top? Like you’re on your way to an underground German BDSM sex party?
Ya! Das is gut magic! Untzuntz!
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Old 02-10-2025, 01:01 PM
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Every minute is 150hps. Hard to beat that unless you have a lot CH’s pointed at you. If you never do, it’s pretty much BiS.
You're forgetting what Live was like.

Zones had many six-man groups, often at least twice as dense as here (eg. Seb's "CE" was two camps, "C" and "E"). That meant groups killing only a mob a minute wasn't at all unusual. Your Cleric almost always had Clarity (you usually had an Enchanter, or if not one was probably nearby), and because Enchanters focused on mezzing (not charming), the Cleric usually only had to heal one mob's damage at a time.

Also, breaks were frequent: normal ones, spontaneous AFKs, and link deaths. Because of the Live 6-man group obsession there was a 6x chance of such breaks ... and if someone didn't come back, pulling would often slow (or stop) until the replacement arrived.

In short, it was rarely chain killing for hours on end: it was far more often kill a few, take a break, repeat. While the Fungi might let your cleric go from CHing every (say) 65 seconds to every 75 seconds ... if your Cleric isn't going OOM without the Fungi, that extra ten seconds won't matter.

Now of course, not all groups were 6-man (with Enchanters/Clerics), some zones were less-packed, and people did want the Fungi for Shaman and twinks: I'm not trying to say Fungis sucked on live [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm just saying that given the environment, I think most Live folks' response was perfectly rational.
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Old 02-10-2025, 02:00 PM
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on my server seb CE was one camp called "bugs"
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Old 02-10-2025, 02:01 PM
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err no that's the upper section before locked door, they just called it crypt from locked door down to emp
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Old 02-10-2025, 02:29 PM
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Doesn’t it look like a fishnet top? Like you’re on your way to an underground German BDSM sex party?
That's what a group of ogres should be called, an orgy.
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Old 02-10-2025, 03:32 PM
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You're forgetting what Live was like.

Zones had many six-man groups, often at least twice as dense as here (eg. Seb's "CE" was two camps, "C" and "E"). That meant groups killing only a mob a minute wasn't at all unusual. Your Cleric almost always had Clarity (you usually had an Enchanter, or if not one was probably nearby), and because Enchanters focused on mezzing (not charming), the Cleric usually only had to heal one mob's damage at a time.

Also, breaks were frequent: normal ones, spontaneous AFKs, and link deaths. Because of the Live 6-man group obsession there was a 6x chance of such breaks ... and if someone didn't come back, pulling would often slow (or stop) until the replacement arrived.

In short, it was rarely chain killing for hours on end: it was far more often kill a few, take a break, repeat. While the Fungi might let your cleric go from CHing every (say) 65 seconds to every 75 seconds ... if your Cleric isn't going OOM without the Fungi, that extra ten seconds won't matter.

Now of course, not all groups were 6-man (with Enchanters/Clerics), some zones were less-packed, and people did want the Fungi for Shaman and twinks: I'm not trying to say Fungis sucked on live [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm just saying that given the environment, I think most Live folks' response was perfectly rational.
I responded to the OP.

I’m not sure what you responded to.
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Old 02-10-2025, 03:55 PM
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I responded to the OP.

I’m not sure what you responded to.
I thought it was clear that I was responding to you (I quoted you) and the OP/topic in general, specifically the last part:

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Like were they always super good, and we just didn't know better, or like? It kind of confuses me. 20+ years ago I remember getting a Hierophant cloak in Seb group one time and someone offering me a Fungus Tunic for it. I was like hell no ! Why would I want some twink item?? Like I couldn't fathom taking my Shadow chestguard off and putting on an ugly fungus tunic with terrible stats.
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