Casinos

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by zforrestal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You'd get mad if you were discriminated against too, don't be a bully please.

I think you deserve to be bullied for comparing yourself to Rosa Parks. I mean, damn brah. Come on.

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what constitutes gambling

gam·ble
ˈgambəl/
verb
gerund or present participle: gambling

1.
play games of chance for money; bet.
"she was fond of gambling on cards and horses"
synonyms: bet, place/lay a bet on something, stake money on something, back the horses, game;
informalplay the ponies
"he started to gamble more often"

Does that help?

[Fiyero]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So not only do you refuse to give specifics on what is allowed and what isn't, which is akin to congress writing laws that nobody is allowed to read, except for the title, but now you refuse to give the reasons why the law was written in the first place? Awesome transparency there. Are we really at the point where we have too many people playing on the server and so the solution is to do everything in order turn people off?

Pretty sure more people hated casinos than liked them, so I doubt this is going to be a huge dent in server population.

It was at GM discretion on live as to whether Casinos were allowed or not. The GMs here decided they're no longer allowed, but will probably add NPC gambling later (I guess like Luclin and the Golden Ticket).

[Rais]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So not only do you refuse to give specifics on what is allowed and what isn't, which is akin to congress writing laws that nobody is allowed to read, except for the title, but now you refuse to give the reasons why the law was written in the first place? Awesome transparency there. Are we really at the point where we have too many people playing on the server and so the solution is to do everything in order turn people off?

Thank god we can compare a removing scam filled casinos on an everquest emu to an arm of a superpower's legislature. He gave you the major reason as to why it was removed, obviously there are more reasons. The simple fact of the demanding time put into CSR involvement to deal with scammers running casinos and not seeing why this is an issue is nuts. Put your big boy shoes on and walk away and stop crying over it.

[zforrestal]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you deserve to be bullied for comparing yourself to Rosa Parks. I mean, damn brah. Come on.

Principle is principle doesn't matter what incident I refer to, it's still the same thing. If you can't realize/accept that regardless of your opinion on casinos, then you're just a bigot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right it's not going to put a big dent in the server population.. yet it's still denting it more than having them be run....

[Fiyero]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you deserve to be bullied for comparing yourself to Rosa Parks. I mean, damn brah. Come on.

Yeah, I saw that statement and I'm like... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Seriously?

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does that help?

That definition could be used to include:
Rolling for a piece of gear that just dropped
Attacking a blue con mob (it's quite a gamble, but you might win some loot)
Paying someone to camp a spawn for you (you're paying money and gambling that the mob will pop)

Without some kind of specificity in regards to what gambling means in EQ, the rule is overly vague and open to interpretation. Our laws are overly specific for a reason.

[Wrench]

Originally Posted by zforrestal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can just as easily TURN OFF random roll text as it is for me to walk to T2

lost me here

# people turn off (and later on) random >> # people walk to t2

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Rais [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He gave you the major reason as to why it was removed,

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Casino's will never return.

If it was just an issue with scamming and nothing else, Casino's wouldn't be banned. We have our own reasons beyond that for removing them. Suffice it to say we've decided they are gone and won't be coming back.

Learn to read, Rais. Clearly scamming wasn't "the major reason" if casinos wouldn't be banned if it was the only thing. If you can't even keep up with a 4 page thread, you better bow out and accept the limits of your reading comprehension before even more words appear.

[Fiyero]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That definition could be used to include:
Rolling for a piece of gear that just dropped
Attacking a blue con mob (it's quite a gamble, but you might win some loot)
Paying someone to camp a spawn for you (you're paying money and gambling that the mob will pop)

Without some kind of specificity in regards to what gambling means in EQ, the rule is overly vague and open to interpretation. Our laws are overly specific for a reason.

I think it's fairly obvious this ban is targeting people who sit in the EC tunnel taking thousands of plat from people for the .000001% chance of supposedly winning a Fungi Tunic before said Casino operator coincidently goes LD with the guy's money.

If you're having trouble discerning that from attacking a blue con mob, I don't know what to tell you.