Trump terrorism speech

[R Flair]

Its raining so I have the day off from ditch digging.

Whats your excuse? Don't you have some children to brainwash?

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

assuming you're talking about tax returns, not tax policy, but here we go.

tax returns probably reveal tax-evasion schemes like any super-rich individual must take advantage of if he intends to be competitive. Obviously this is irrelevant, but would still be really bad optics when trying to gain the vote of the completely retarded American electorate.

He's trying to win the vote of people who parrot talmudvision arguments like "but ur ties are made in China" when Don's whole persona is about the fact that he has played the game, seen how it's rigged against the American polity in favor of rich individuals, and wants to change it. To paraphrase, he had an obligation to his family and to his company to take advantage of these nasty wrinkles in the system. And if he uses the power he gained from that abuse to fix the system, is he not absolved?

His ingenious electioneering has him in a position where the more successful he was at being a douche in private life, the better he looks as a candidate, but this is the second layer of his persona only accessible to people who have a few brain cells active. There is a lot of plausibility to the idea that he's egomaniacal- and aware-enough of the big picture to act against his own financial interests in order to go down as a great US president, but you have to understand that the majority of USA is not thinking deeply enough to get even to here, and the television/redditsphere can't risk getting even that "intellectual" about the election in front of the debeaked peons so this has to remain an undercurrent.

Reaching the people who can't make it to layer 2 is what the first layer of the Trump public persona onion is for: the dogwhistling, the careful flirtation with racism, the lowbrow Rosie O'Donnell insults (okay I enjoyed those too actually). This is why layer-1 Democrat voters refer to Trump's base as idiot rednecks when he in fact has more crossover appeal than any Republican or Democrat candidate in most of these peoples' lifetimes.

Also as Azzar said, high probability that his self-valuation was high compared with his paper valuation. Another potentially annoying angle he doesn't want exposure to. In reality though, dude has been able to ride his brand and talent to a strong showing as an outsider in an American presidential election -- any thinking person will be willing to concede that his name is worth more than any tax statement will say. But, again, you must realize that layer 2 is not the important one.

The only problem I have with your analysis, is your assumption of Trump's good will toward working people. To me, it seems that he wants to be president mostly because he is an egomanic that wants to be president. He's going the conservative race-baiting angle because that gets him votes. He talks about wealth inequality and immigration policy because that gets him votes.

All politicians priority number 1 is to stay in power. This trumps (no pun intended) any other consideration. The big question is, after they finish taking care of number 1, what else are they going to do with what little they can change?

It's possible he gets rid of loopholes and shady business practices. But honestly, I think his track record shows that he will only care about stuff like that as long as it makes him popular. Generally, going after any kind of shady business practice provokes attack adds and bought pundits to rail against you. So to me, it seems unlikely he would do much.

You have to keep in mind...Trump is cynical salesman at heart. He was never working class, and its very generous to consider him in anyway self made given that his fuckin dad was a rich developer just like him (although notably less rich). I don't see how anything in that background signals that he is "on our side" to any degree.

Conservatives mocked young democrats for falling for that hope and change shit Obama peddled. This isn't any different. Trump is full of cheap talk and no expensive signaling. This is just another frontier for him to conquer, and exploiting angry working/middle class white men is just the method of doing it.

Maybe not, maybe he does care. But to me that seems unlikely.

[R Flair]

Unlike Obama's change, the change that Trump is championing mostly to protect America from rising violence from within and without that Barry and Shillary are both working to create. They constantly fan the flames of faux-racism to create a crisis.

Will he bring economic change? I don't know. He has some pretty simple plans to improve things but economic issues are of far less importance than those above. Without fixing that problem it will lead to events that will cause our economy and nation to fall regardless.

[Ahldagor]

Can Trump muster enough political credit, capitol to get something done? That's the underlying question. Congress holds the keys, and how a president works with them, without, or whether or not they will do anything determines what, if anything, can get done. Look at the trend of increasing executive orders over the past decades and how much congress actually works on anything. The cynical view I have of politicians leads me to thinking that regardless of the president, it's easier to point a finger in blame or stand beside a president in agreement rather than do anything difficult that may or may not hinder one's reelection.

[R Flair]

Maybe he won't get the support to get stuff done. Personally if he can actually defeat Hillary/left wing media/establishment/globalist and actually become president, I think it will create an even more widespread patriotic populist movement. Thats a huge if, but at that point anything is possible.

[mmmroo]

this entire election is a farce, just meditate and get good with the 4th.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe he won't get the support to get stuff done. Personally if he can actually defeat Hillary/left wing media/establishment/globalist and actually become president, I think it will create an even more widespread patriotic populist movement. Thats a huge if, but at that point anything is possible.

Yeah I don't think Trump has much of a chance. Everything legal to this point has indicated the fact that Hillary will win whether through the 4th branch (Media) or by election fraud.

Congress recommended charges for perjury and that's not going anywhere either. Again, another sign the way is paved and the light is green for Hillary (really Bill and Huma Abedin)

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I don't think Trump has much of a chance. Everything legal to this point has indicated the fact that Hillary will win whether through the 4th branch (Media) or by election fraud.

Congress recommended charges for perjury and that's not going anywhere either. Again, another sign the way is paved and the light is green for Hillary (really Bill and Huma Abedin)

Trump is already mobilizing a force to do independent exit polling. I'm guessing there will be many hundreds of people doing this as he continues to stress the importance of it.

Only problem with that is its backing them into a corner. Polls are obviously rigged as they're being used to condition people and corroborate a Hillary win in november. If hundreds, maybe thousands of people are prepared to watch precincts and take exit polls, this will leave them with no other choice but to take more... drastic action.

I really think democracy is done in this country. Don't see anyone becoming president at this point that isn't backed by the establishment.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trump is already mobilizing a force to do independent exit polling. I'm guessing there will be many hundreds of people doing this as he continues to stress the importance of it.

Only problem with that is its backing them into a corner. Polls are obviously rigged as they're being used to condition people and corroborate a Hillary win in november. If hundreds, maybe thousands of people are prepared to watch precincts and take exit polls, this will leave them with no other choice but to take more... drastic action.

I really think democracy is done in this country. Don't see anyone becoming president at this point that isn't backed by the establishment.

Our best shot was Jeb Bush.

Why do I say Jeb of all people? Because lets not forget George W. Bush never won a SINGLE Presidential election, nevermind two of them. He never won any election, ever. Just had to stress that again. John Kerry is on tape even admitting that he was likely to win the Presidency had he challenged him in court, but declined to do so for personal reasons.

Case in point? The establishment gets things done. GWB didn't need to win anything, he had the fraud in place, the establishment fix, and completely blew Gore and Kerry out with establishment muscle.

And Trump won't be getting any of that help no matter how bad the Pentagon wants him elected. The Pentagon isn't what it used to be in the 1930's-1970's anymore. Pentagon support no longer determines elections. There was a power shift sometime during the Reagan era and it was permanent.

[R Flair]

Jeb is a mess.