Mcgregor

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by daasgoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you say going up 25lbs doesn't matter then you crazy.. throw 25lbs in a backpack and go running.. see if you don't gas faster then if you didn't have it.

mcgregor was destroying diaz until he got tired. He definitely didn't prepare properly for the higher weight.

gotta give it to diaz for staying on his feet though, guy has an iron chin.. he got hit with some pretty mean punches.

Conor had it right. He said those shots would have crumpled anyone in his weight class, and I completely agree.

Its a big fucking deal. Conor looked great, aside from the gas. He loses nothing in this fight imo. Good performance, really showed how great he is. Some of you probably need to rewatch the fight without the glass of hateraid.

[hammbone]

Originally Posted by daasgoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

mcgregor was destroying diaz until he got tired.

exactly why he failed - just about every champ is truly prepared to go 5 rounds.

McGregor gassed super early...

[AzzarTheGod]

He didn't expect the power threshold to change for the worst. Was obvious that "bulked" Nate had way more chin than Nate at 155 when his brain is dehydrated.

[barrettdc1]

only mma fighter that matters ever is TANK ABBOTT.

[compulsion]

McGregor is an absolutely huge featherweight who can only make that type of cut because he is so young. He is a big, but more natural lightweight and he had a complete training camp for a fight at 155.

Nate Diaz is a natural lightweight who fights at 155. He is way too small to be a contender at 170.

Neither fighter had to cut and both came in a few pounds under 170.

The reason the UFC booked the fight at 170, despite BOTH fighters previously agreeing to a 160lb catch weight bout is that a SAFE weight cut needs to start 14 days(or more) before the day of the weigh-in. The fight was at 170 because the UFC does not want the liability of a contract requiring a fighter to risk their health.

Nate Diaz was a good match up for McGregor on paper. Dos Anjos wrecked Diaz with leg kicks to the point Diaz could hardly stand up. McGregor could/should have done the same. Diaz does not have an aggressive takedown game to counter McGregor's perceived advantage in the power striking game. I'm sure Dana White expected Diaz to get bloodied for a few rounds and then TKO'd.

Instead, Diaz kept boxing with tight, straight jab/cross combos. And McGregor, instead of landing KO shots to the jaw like he did with Aldo*, landed on the eyebrow/forehead and only caused superficial cuts and minor swelling.

*note: Most of the Brazilians have looked like shit since UFC updated its drug testing policy, e.g., Renan Barao.

Sorry to all of you who think McGregor is some superhero just because he runs his mouth. His ground game is shit. That shot was sloppy, and if he even attempted to defend during the scramble and choke, it was so bad as to be unidentifiable by commentators and media. And how about that chin? He got wobbled, backed up, and wobbled again by a guy who has never in life been associated with punching power.

McGregor is just the new poster boy for the WWE mentality UFC fans. He talks out his ass for hours so that a few funny quotes will end up on the media, and it ends up working the same way as it does for scripted heels.

Good chance he loses the 145 belt to Edgar if that gets booked, and no chance he cracks the top 3 at 155, which is the weight he should have been fighting all along.

[Rekrul]

Originally Posted by compulsion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

McGregor is an absolutely huge featherweight who can only make that type of cut because he is so young. He is a big, but more natural lightweight and he had a complete training camp for a fight at 155.

Nate Diaz is a natural lightweight who fights at 155. He is way too small to be a contender at 170.

Neither fighter had to cut and both came in a few pounds under 170.

The reason the UFC booked the fight at 170, despite BOTH fighters previously agreeing to a 160lb catch weight bout is that a SAFE weight cut needs to start 14 days(or more) before the day of the weigh-in. The fight was at 170 because the UFC does not want the liability of a contract requiring a fighter to risk their health.

Nate Diaz was a good match up for McGregor on paper. Dos Anjos wrecked Diaz with leg kicks to the point Diaz could hardly stand up. McGregor could/should have done the same. Diaz does not have an aggressive takedown game to counter McGregor's perceived advantage in the power striking game. I'm sure Dana White expected Diaz to get bloodied for a few rounds and then TKO'd.

Instead, Diaz kept boxing with tight, straight jab/cross combos. And McGregor, instead of landing KO shots to the jaw like he did with Aldo*, landed on the eyebrow/forehead and only caused superficial cuts and minor swelling.

*note: Most of the Brazilians have looked like shit since UFC updated its drug testing policy, e.g., Renan Barao.

Sorry to all of you who think McGregor is some superhero just because he runs his mouth. His ground game is shit. That shot was sloppy, and if he even attempted to defend during the scramble and choke, it was so bad as to be unidentifiable by commentators and media. And how about that chin? He got wobbled, backed up, and wobbled again by a guy who has never in life been associated with punching power.

McGregor is just the new poster boy for the WWE mentality UFC fans. He talks out his ass for hours so that a few funny quotes will end up on the media, and it ends up working the same way as it does for scripted heels.

Good chance he loses the 145 belt to Edgar if that gets booked, and no chance he cracks the top 3 at 155, which is the weight he should have been fighting all along.

You're an idiot parrot of every mma forum that jumps from conclusion to conclusion.

[fan D]

connor has very good ground game, nate is just amazing and he rocked connor

[Smedy]

bunch of no fighting overweight everquest players discussing mma like its their world

everything checks out

[compulsion]

Originally Posted by fan D [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

connor has very good ground game, nate is just amazing and he rocked connor

Conor, with 1 N Conor, has fought 2 total fighters with what would be called good ground games.

Chad Mendes cut ~15 lbs in 3 weeks and had no camp, yet battered McGregor for 2 rounds until gassing badly. Still, McGregor toughed it out and ended up with the KO when Mendes couldn't even lift his arms.

And then the Diaz fight where his ground game looked like shit and he lost.

That is the picture of his ground game. It isn't "very good", at best it is still a big question mark even in the minds of other fighters and experts. At worst, he has no wrestling and needs to get some sub defense advice from Holly Holm.

Idiots like you were the ones eating up the McGregor v. Lawler hype a week ago. Diaz is an attrition boxer with nearly half of his fights determined by decision, he isn't "amazing" and he still beat up McGregor standing.

Originally Posted by Rekrul [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're an idiot parrot of every mma forum that jumps from conclusion to conclusion.

You are half right. I am citing the conclusions of the vast majority of the MMA media and the podcasts of a few current and former UFC fighters. That is called news.

The MMA forums are largely filled with the same garbage as the first 5 pages of this thread. A bunch of people making excuses that their favorite fighter of the last 3 months came out and looked absolutely mediocre.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by compulsion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A bunch of people making excuses that their favorite fighter of the last 3 months came out and looked absolutely mediocre.

lol rewatch the fight if you think McGregor looked mediocre.

more like the white Anderson silva whos power didn't translate to 170 and therefore gassed and got clipped in that order.