Miscellaneous: P99 should have a +Mana cap and revised Base Mana Formula - Page 12

Rygar · #**111** 05-02-2023, 04:14 PM

Would be sweet if updated for green 2.0, even if blue is chosen not to use this classic mechanic

Rygar · #**112** 07-07-2023, 04:09 PM

Some great proof here of the mana cap scaling at low levels. Some people post some bogus formulas claiming 6k max mana at 60 but easily was debunked.

Some intriguing reading:
http://web.archive.org/web/200105042...ML/000565.html

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I know must of you will not believe this. But I am almost 100% sure there is a mana cap. I added 190 mana from items alone to a twink mage I made. My lvl 1 nuke spell only cost 7 mana. So I should be able to cast well over 20 just with my gear alone, not counting my mana I had already. Well I couldn't cast anywhere near 20. More like 8 or 9. Does anyone know when I get my mana that my items say I have? And please spare me of your disbeleifs on this subject unless you go test it out(then I would like to hear it).

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Mana is capped (or maybe artificially limited is a better phrase) at low levels. NOt sure when the cap lifts but it's there.
I created a Iksar Necro to cast Invis Undead on my Wizard once (so my wizard could get down to the jester in Kurn's). Invis undead is a lvl 1 necro spell that cost 40 mana - I never found a way to cast it at level 1, you just can't have that much mana at lvl 1.

I put the basic gold/plat Jade (mana/hp) jewelry on him but it didn't help. I put my Tolamupj's Robe and Shrouded Viel on him and he still coudn't cast it. That's about +200 mana worth gear total. So I leveled him up to level 2. Even with the +70 mana worth of jewelry I still had to give him the +30 mana face piece before he could cast a 40 mana spell on my wizard.

Rygar · #**113** 07-07-2023, 04:32 PM

Another interesting find.
http://web.archive.org/web/200105042...ML/000363.html

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OK. +mana items do NOT give the full mana that they say they do. I have tested this and determined that they give a percentage based on your INT / WIS whichever is used for your class to generate mana. If you have a moonstone ring that gives +30 mana and you give to a human wizard with 100 INT, the ring will give him exactly 15 extra mana. In order to get the full mana you must have your INT maxxed at 200 (WIS if you are a priest class) Take your INT divided by 2. That is the percentage of the mana from the +mana item that you will actually recieve from it.
While Abashi once stated that +mana and +hp items give the full amount indicated, my own tests, and the tests of some friends would indicate that Abashi's statement was mis-informed as pertaining to +mana items (his statement was accurate for +hp items).

I think that is interesting as in my last post a level 2 necro put on a +70 mana item and couldn't cast a 40 mana spell, but could once he equipped an additional +30 mana item.

Leads me to believe there is some truth to the above where the +mana is both level based and potentially related to your INT/WIS current standing.