"Spyware" dll in P99's patch files.

[EQBarde]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Goldknyght]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please make new red

Please dont! But i will take this statement back if P99 RED can muster 1000 concurrent people playing on the server! If that happens. maybe gustoo has a point.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Goldknyght [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please dont! But i will take this statement back if P99 RED can muster 1000 concurrent people playing on the server! If that happens. maybe gustoo has a point.

it used butt there is no reason playing on a stale 20 year old box as u will soon see with green

[blackrock]

Originally Posted by Crawdad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its been a boring morning, can you list the laws for our resident young lawyers to parse?

https://sites.suffolk.edu/jhtl/2021/...vacy-concerns/

probably illegal in the EU

https://www.wired.com/story/kernel-a...lnerabilities/

talks about the levels of anti-cheats particularly Black Desert had a very low level anti-cheat program in regards the the windows operating system

this is a particularly interesting issue since there's a set of ISOs being passed around that have what appear to be MQ2 installation files in the 5th iso that may or may not be getting hooked during the install process and infecting any user who uses to exploit their computer

Typically anti-cheat software is looking to stop the cheat application from gaining access to the game in question and detecting it once it does and does not normally look outside itself to find open windows.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...ustice-policy/

cites that if this is being done in good faith for security research and in this case good faith catching cheat software that is installed with or with out the players permission

these are honest questions though about what is done once they are looking outside the game and are they circumventing any security measures built into windows with either social engineering or code.

[PabloEdvardo]

if you've ever done any programming in windows and messed with the winAPI you'd know how easy it is to read window titles from any application

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...getwindowtexta

and if you want to call that spyware, i sure hope you don't run OBS, because it also enumerates your open windows and grabs the titles (so you can use it to automatically capture a window based on title)

overall it's a simple and low effort way to prevent running the most common cheat applications (or problematic applications). I got a scary message one time when I opened p99 and then realized I had WinDBG running from analyzing a crash dump and I guess it was on their 'no no list'. I closed it and logged on no problem after.

their dll isn't stopping anyone from running cheats that they don't know about - so the main benefit is this keeps you from accidentally logging on and getting permabanned if you left something they don't like running on accident. I consider that a benefit.

if you are really that scared close your porn tabs before you run the game

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by PabloEdvardo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you've ever done any programming in windows and messed with the winAPI you'd know how easy it is to read window titles from any application

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...getwindowtexta

and if you want to call that spyware, i sure hope you don't run OBS, because it also enumerates your open windows and grabs the titles (so you can use it to automatically capture a window based on title)

overall it's a simple and low effort way to prevent running the most common cheat applications (or problematic applications). I got a scary message one time when I opened p99 and then realized I had WinDBG running from analyzing a crash dump and I guess it was on their 'no no list'. I closed it and logged on no problem after.

their dll isn't stopping anyone from running cheats that they don't know about - so the main benefit is this keeps you from accidentally logging on and getting permabanned if you left something they don't like running on accident. I consider that a benefit.

if you are really that scared close your porn tabs before you run the game

That is exactly what a cheater wud says. B&

[Uthgaard]

Originally Posted by PabloEdvardo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you've ever done any programming in windows and messed with the winAPI you'd know how easy it is to read window titles from any application

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...getwindowtexta

and if you want to call that spyware, i sure hope you don't run OBS, because it also enumerates your open windows and grabs the titles (so you can use it to automatically capture a window based on title)

overall it's a simple and low effort way to prevent running the most common cheat applications (or problematic applications). I got a scary message one time when I opened p99 and then realized I had WinDBG running from analyzing a crash dump and I guess it was on their 'no no list'. I closed it and logged on no problem after.

their dll isn't stopping anyone from running cheats that they don't know about - so the main benefit is this keeps you from accidentally logging on and getting permabanned if you left something they don't like running on accident. I consider that a benefit.

if you are really that scared close your porn tabs before you run the game

I mean this is the basic concept, cheat deterrents. There is also non-personally identifying device information which makes identifying 2boxing a little easier as well, and isn't any different from what every website on the internet gleans as you surf the web. But nobody is looking at it unless there's actual cause to investigate rule violations or account theft.

If you think anyone is actively watching you, then you really overestimate how interesting you actually are.

[azxten]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is also non-personally identifying device information

That seems like a false statement. What device information exactly? I heard computer and user name which can be personally identifying.

isn't any different from what every website on the internet gleans as you surf the web

Can websites get your user or computer name? Is that what is being referred to? Last I checked that information is not available or intended to be available to any website.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/...web-page-in-vb

But nobody is looking at it unless there's actual cause to investigate rule violations or account theft.

Sounds like the NSA and their logic that they aren't spying on you by collecting your information because no one is looking at what was collected... until some other time.

If you think anyone is actively watching you, then you really overestimate how interesting you actually are.

Uthgaard aren't you that rogue GM who I saw ban players without cause and I petitioned it and messaged Nilbog on the forums about it? Yeah that's right it was Mistmoore and I saw someone accidentally train a mob or something and you popped up in response. I told you I saw the whole thing and it was an accident but you essentially told me to shut up and perma banned them. You already had a rep for bad decision making like this and thinking your job was to play bad cop and insult players. I say that because I also had already messaged Nilbog that I was concerned you weren't a fair or good GM so this training incident was me saying I had confirmation of my earlier beliefs.

Anyway the reason I bring it up is because sometime after that occurred I called you gay on the forums and you perma banned all my in game accounts for it even linking IPs to other accounts banning my families accounts. Luckily Rogean unbanned my accounts after you yourself got banned.

Point being it's funny to hear you say this when you were a power obsessed GM who unfairly banned players on multiple occasions including in my case accounts I had merely logged into for calling you gay on forums. So clearly you yourself felt I was interesting enough to punish by using this collected data, in my case IP information, so why wouldn't you or someone like you use the additional computer information when someone calls you gay or worse and you want to punish them maybe beyond the game world? After all, I broke a forum rule on the forums but you applied that to game accounts some of which weren't even mine. I don't think your statements are very trustworthy but maybe I'm wrong.

By the way I never got to apologize for that, I'm sorry, it was inappropriate to call you gay and was insulting to gay people too to use this as a slur.

[Chortles Snortles]

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[Uthgaard]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Huge rant

Every time I post you reply to it with a huge rant about being banned (which is really impressive that you've managed to stay bigmad for a whole decade now), but...

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