Warrior Aggro - Post Patch

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Nevederia%27s_Horn

Strong aggro proc. Delay is 15. Offhand does not apply actual damage bonus damage but there is a bug on p99 where offhand DOES contribute damage bonus threat. It is a bug, but it exists and that weapon applies that damage bonus threat at a delay of 15.

It is the best offhand aggro weapon currently in game. Red epic with its proc edges out over all other mainhand threat weapons available in this era.

Best of the best for raw aggro is red + nev

Having said that, as long as you’re making more than enough threat to reliably get the job done, there is value in other weapons (utility from slow proc, more hp, etc).

The proc is like 0 aggro so wrong there, it gets love for the white dmg threat

[Naethyn]

Personally, I feel nev horn is a trap for new warriors who aren't geared enough to take additional reposts from 15 delay offhand that are looking for a short cut.

[Troxx]

Edit: nevermind … you are right. I found the hate values in another thread.

Allyisha indicated it being a superior offhand due to DB aggro calls here:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...9&postcount=47

This page of thread and following:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...=408174&page=5

[Naethyn]

The reason the cripple line is high aggro is because of the -AC component. Unfortunately suffocate doesn't include it, probably because its an enchanter spell. -AC is on the same level as slow aggro. The proc is very minor aggro.

[Naethyn]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Cracked_Claw_of_Zlandicar is an example of a true aggro proc, because it includes the -AC component for that spell line.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Personally, I feel nev horn is a trap for new warriors who aren't geared enough to take additional reposts from 15 delay offhand that are looking for a short cut.

This is actually pretty good advice. If/when I ever resumed raiding (warrior main) my goal was to save first and foremost for red epic and nev horn. Cause if you are supposed to tank and can't generate enough threat to hold aggro what's the point right?

But that extra riposte dmg on heavy hitting raid bosses is not negligible.

I guess I've been spoiled tanking with my Frostreaver. It's not the best but solid white dmg threat + a good proc and minimal ripostes while doing pretty excellent dps.

[wagorf]

so if red blade is main, is trident or kflame better offhand for aggro?

[Toxigen]

i dont see using anything but trident if you have it

shit is so good and can land on unslowable mobs

[Philistine]

Originally Posted by wagorf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so if red blade is main, is trident or kflame better offhand for aggro?

I have a guildy who uses red + flame and seems to do fine, but I think the challenge is that it's ratio of only modestly better than Trident, but it's proc is much worse (100 hate vs 400 or whatever Trident proc is now)

[Philistine]

An additional thought!

Ultimately it's up to the raid to not get agro. Sure, the tank should be trying to put out decent agro but often the raid can make about anything work.

I have a guildy who used infestation + frostbringer right after infestation got nerfed. First time he tanked something, a bunch of dps caught agro and died. The next time he tanked something that same night, they didn't- they recognized he didn't build agro like they expected and adapted.