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Old 07-10-2023, 09:19 PM
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Thanks!

Please feel free if you want. My only reservation is it’s a short parse. Law of large numbers would probably be be more illustrative. That said, the air was consistently easier to heal. It would be my go-to meatshield for stunnable things.

In normal situations the stun is going to do 59dd and the kick a max of 75. That’s is on par with the water DD. When the stun or water DD isn’t landing the kick will do something where the water doesn’t have another melee attack besides backstab.

I know in cases where spells are a moot topic the water pet still holds up nice. It’s mid 40’s on Vindi and usually top few on Xenvorash parses.
Thanks! I think it's enough of a parse to show that there are differences, but yeah more data is more better for sure. Air was always my goto solo pet so I could 'feel' that he was tankier but never had the raw data like this to back it up.

Flying kick makes it up, nice catch, that's pretty cool. Water is definitely DPS king most of the time, I only use the epic on big boss fights because of the guaranteed level, I hate cycling trying for the max level sometimes.
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Old 07-11-2023, 12:04 AM
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I’m sure the epic is better almost always. Nice to have the air as a backup though. I only learned this week you don’t turn it in for the epic. Shows how much I’ve studied the quest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 07-11-2023, 12:24 AM
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I’m sure the epic is better almost always. Nice to have the air as a backup though. I only learned this week you don’t turn it in for the epic. Shows how much I’ve studied the quest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Yeah Epic Pet is pretty nice. Allishia provided me with some Epic Pet logs. This is the nerfed pet, and the pet had Burnout IV + Muzzle:

 

[Mon Jul 04 19:54:32 2022] Vibann tells you, 'Attacking an elemental crusader Master.'
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:33 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 84 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:34 2022] Vibann bashes an elemental crusader for 25 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:35 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 67 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:36 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 24 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:37 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 67 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:38 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 67 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:38 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 67 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:39 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 67 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:39 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 48 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:41 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 61 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:44 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 53 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:45 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 67 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:46 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 38 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:46 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 67 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:47 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 40 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:48 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 67 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:48 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 30 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:49 2022] Vibann bashes an elemental crusader for 27 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:49 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 53 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:49 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 67 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:50 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 67 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:51 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 84 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:51 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 67 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:52 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 35 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:53 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 43 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:54 2022] An elemental crusader bashes Vibann for 25 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:54 2022] Vibann bashes an elemental crusader for 23 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:54 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 67 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:56 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 67 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:56 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 143 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:57 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 61 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:57 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 56 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:58 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 64 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:58 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 143 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:59 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 27 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:00 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 38 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:00 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 43 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:00 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 143 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:01 2022] An elemental crusader bashes Vibann for 24 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:02 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 32 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:02 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 61 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:03 2022] Vibann bashes an elemental crusader for 27 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:05 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 84 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:05 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 35 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:06 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 61 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:06 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 67 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:07 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 45 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:07 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 61 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:07 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 19 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:07 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 35 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:08 2022] Vibann kicks an elemental crusader for 27 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:09 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 22 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:10 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 24 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:11 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 67 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:12 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 67 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:12 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 67 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:13 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 43 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:13 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 143 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:14 2022] Vibann hits an elemental crusader for 45 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:14 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 143 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:14 2022] You gain experience!!


Pet Damage: 3805 in 42 seconds = 90.6 DPS

 

[Mon Jul 04 19:54:42 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:42 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:44 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:44 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:46 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:46 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:46 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:49 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:49 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:49 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:51 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:54 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:55 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:57 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:59 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:01 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:02 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:06 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:09 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:09 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:11 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:11 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:13 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:13 2022] an elemental crusader was hit by non-melee for 50 points of damage.


Damage Shield Damage: 1200 in 42 seconds = 28.5 DPS

So it can do around 120 DPS at the upper limit, assuming it is tanking and fighting an unslowed mob. It will obviously do less on a raid mob, this parse is from a regular blue mob.

This was the damage taken:

 

[Mon Jul 04 19:54:39 2022] An elemental crusader bashes Vibann for 22 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:39 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 27 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:39 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 76 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:42 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 65 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:42 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 27 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:44 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 70 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:44 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 72 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:46 2022] An elemental crusader bashes Vibann for 26 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:46 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 108 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:46 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 33 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:49 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 108 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:49 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 18 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:49 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 99 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:51 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 79 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:54 2022] An elemental crusader bashes Vibann for 25 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:55 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 93 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:57 2022] An elemental crusader bashes Vibann for 18 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:54:59 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 67 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:01 2022] An elemental crusader bashes Vibann for 24 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:02 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 75 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:06 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 72 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:09 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 22 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:09 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 104 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:11 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 65 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:11 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 40 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:13 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 75 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 04 19:55:13 2022] An elemental crusader hits Vibann for 37 points of damage.


Damage Taken: 1547 over 42 seconds = 36.8 DPS

The mob was attacking another player for a few seconds first, so the pet would have taken an extra 3 or 4 hits.
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Old 07-11-2023, 12:32 PM
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Bless yall for actually wanting to do non raid content as a mage, Mine won't. All I need is a lvl 4 pet.
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Old 07-11-2023, 01:34 PM
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Mage is for coth.

Sorry ya don't got root (like every other caster in the game) hope this helps.
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Old 07-11-2023, 02:22 PM
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Mage is for coth.

Sorry ya don't got root (like every other caster in the game) hope this helps.
Show us on the doll where the Mage hurt you
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Old 07-11-2023, 02:37 PM
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Show us on the doll where the Mage hurt you
mommy says thats the no-no-zone
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Old 07-11-2023, 07:27 PM
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Mages will smoke most EC pleb monks just with the pet. Adding the DS they will do more than EC rogues. Nuking, well…good luck.

Coth the replacement class or corpse-drag and rez?

The list goes on [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] mages are a great +1 and the best ToV raid class.
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Old 07-11-2023, 08:58 PM
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Mages relegated to COTH bots in an attempt to hide their true power
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Old 07-12-2023, 04:46 AM
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mommy says thats the no-no-zone
Don’t touch me there!
That is my no-no square!
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