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Old 07-24-2021, 04:58 PM
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AOC style green new deal policies however would kill millions of poor people.
That's the holdup with infrastructure. Dems want bipartisanship and also to get their entire Christmas list of GND investments. Manchin holds the dam for now. It's a shame Redhats like you give him zero credit.
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Old 07-24-2021, 05:14 PM
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That's the holdup with infrastructure. Dems want bipartisanship and also to get their entire Christmas list of GND investments.
Yea that or the plot to The arrival is real.

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Old 07-24-2021, 05:21 PM
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If the global average temperature rises 1-2 degrees over the next hundred years, certain places that were previously uninhabitable may become habitable. Climate change is a fear porn issue for the doomsday paranoid.
And certain places that were previously inhabitable would be uninhabitable, but this ignores the obvious fact that animals migrate.

When the pandemic first reached the U.S. in NYC, the high class moved upstate or to neighboring cities in the tri-state area. It was virtually empty according to a few people I know who were down there at the time, emptier than after 9/11. Wildfires and floods would cause more of the same sudden shifts in population, placing more demand on hospitals, grocery stores, etc. And real estate would take a hit.

All of that would make gerrymandering exceedingly difficult (not to mention conducting a census) so there's some silver-lining. No one who says it's a nonissue lives next to power plants because no one wants to breathe in smog. Ignoring the debate, whether there are or aren't any drastic natural repercussions in the future, there's no question that our proliferation of waste is more than just an eyesore.
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Old 07-24-2021, 05:26 PM
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Yea that or the plot to The arrival is real.
You have until June, jib.
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Old 07-24-2021, 06:13 PM
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And certain places that were previously inhabitable would be uninhabitable, but this ignores the obvious fact that animals migrate.

When the pandemic first reached the U.S. in NYC, the high class moved upstate or to neighboring cities in the tri-state area. It was virtually empty according to a few people I know who were down there at the time, emptier than after 9/11. Wildfires and floods would cause more of the same sudden shifts in population, placing more demand on hospitals, grocery stores, etc. And real estate would take a hit.

All of that would make gerrymandering exceedingly difficult (not to mention conducting a census) so there's some silver-lining. No one who says it's a nonissue lives next to power plants because no one wants to breathe in smog. Ignoring the debate, whether there are or aren't any drastic natural repercussions in the future, there's no question that our proliferation of waste is more than just an eyesore.
Sure I'm certainly not saying it's fake or that we shouldn't take certain measures to live a cleaner existence, but it tends to be a bougie pet topic for the most well to do (I'm looking at you Gretta). If you're living in africa and burning cow shit to survive, you really don't care about 0.4% reduction of carbon emissions. The poor of the world depend heavily on fossil fuels. Green technology would be great to have widespread, but there are drastic downsides that activists really don't like to acknowledge, and they need to grapple with them if they want to actually make meaningful changes.
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Old 07-24-2021, 06:19 PM
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U guys seen that red tide news lol.
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Old 07-24-2021, 08:40 PM
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Green technology would be great to have widespread, but there are drastic downsides that activists really don't like to acknowledge, and they need to grapple with them if they want to actually make meaningful changes.
Fair point. Biomimicry seems better in many ways since it improves or adds onto the infrastructure already in place, minimizing the chance for those downsides to occur; whereas, with green tech, wind turbines alone have had a significant impact on bird and bat populations, the only solution so far being their placement and speed, neither of which have worked reliably well.
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Old 07-26-2021, 01:17 AM
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Society is right on track for a global collapse, new study of infamous 1970s report finds

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Old 07-26-2021, 05:07 AM
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Old 07-26-2021, 09:52 AM
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Gonna play EQ and shadowlands until they pull the plug m8s
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