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Old 02-21-2024, 12:01 PM
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Yep FD succeeded, you didn't get the fallen to the ground message.

But you failed your situational awareness check. Sorry you don't got flop success hope this helps.
You still didn't answer my question about riposte lol. Can a player turn off riposte to prevent an FD failure due to a poorly timed riposte?

Thank for for continuing to agree with me that there are other ways to check if FD failed too.
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Old 02-21-2024, 12:37 PM
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You still didn't answer my question about riposte lol. Can a player turn off riposte to prevent an FD failure due to a poorly timed riposte?

Thank for for continuing to agree with me that there are other ways to check if FD failed too.
There is no way to turn off ripostes. Riposting can break FD without a fail message.

I have heard some SKs do not train riposte ever in order to prevent this.

Also, just a note to the many many people reading: riposte is pronounced rih-post. Like “rip” a piece of paper, “post” it on the wall. Incorrect pronunciations I have heard include “rip a site,” very creative, very annoying.
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Old 02-21-2024, 12:44 PM
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There is no way to turn off ripostes. Riposting can break FD without a fail message.
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Old 02-21-2024, 01:28 PM
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I know you guys love to bash people, but that doesn’t mean we can ignore the correct things someone says.
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Old 02-21-2024, 01:30 PM
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Just so we're clear here, riposte is not a threat to breaking FD and no, FD classes don't "skip" training riposte for safety.

This is ancient aliens level delusion.
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Old 02-21-2024, 01:35 PM
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Are we saying an SK can riposte while laying down?
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Old 02-21-2024, 01:48 PM
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Are we saying an SK can riposte while laying down?
You can happen to riposte right when you are FDing, which will break FD. Same concept with leaving autoattack on while FDing, as you are swinging your weapon at the same time as you are FDing. These scenarios will not provide a "fallen to the ground" message
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Old 02-21-2024, 02:37 PM
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You can happen to riposte right when you are FDing, which will break FD. Same concept with leaving autoattack on while FDing, as you are swinging your weapon at the same time as you are FDing. These scenarios will not provide a "fallen to the ground" message
Disregarding severe lag surely this isn’t an issue for shadow knights who r necromancers due to the cast time on the various FD spels/clicks. Is there an instacast FD i’m not aware of?

/pause n, /attack off
/pause n, /doability #fd
/consider

Makes a good start to a fd macro for monk. Obviously lacks the functionality of greying out with reuse timer. I wonder whether it is possible to add that with custom UI.
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Old 02-21-2024, 02:54 PM
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Disregarding severe lag surely this isn’t an issue for shadow knights who r necromancers due to the cast time on the various FD spels/clicks. Is there an instacast FD i’m not aware of?

/pause n, /attack off
/pause n, /doability #fd
/consider

Makes a good start to a fd macro for monk. Obviously lacks the functionality of greying out with reuse timer. I wonder whether it is possible to add that with custom UI.
If I understand what you are saying, you are correct that Necromancers do not have riposte. For SK's, you can riposte right when you finish casting the FD spell, just like you can attack right after you finish casting the FD spell. The point is simply that there are FD fail cases out of the player's control, and thus Toxigen's argument of "FD failure without a message can only be caused by the player" is false.

As you point out, FD has a cast time. This means you can land FD right when a mob starts casting a spell as well, before you have time to cancel FD. This is also out of the player's control, but the result is an FD failure without a message once the spell lands.
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Old 02-21-2024, 04:54 PM
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Disregarding severe lag surely this isn’t an issue for shadow knights who r necromancers due to the cast time on the various FD spels/clicks. Is there an instacast FD i’m not aware of?

/pause n, /attack off
/pause n, /doability #fd
/consider

Makes a good start to a fd macro for monk. Obviously lacks the functionality of greying out with reuse timer. I wonder whether it is possible to add that with custom UI.
Good point as well, not that it's ever happened on my monk either and I play from Europe with shit latency.

DSM is literally just reaching at straws because he can't deal with being twice wrong.
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