NY GRAND JURY VOTES TO INDICT TRUMP

[Origen]

I don't take advice on spiritualism or marxism from non-believers but thank you

[Duik]

Fight the fights worth winning. So what, we win vs the muslim hatred, low %age of win there.
Convert (see what i did there?) Christian thinking on [the subject] and voila! Whole lotta winning going on there. In the US & A and here in OZ.

We in comfortable countries watch the box and see atrocities around the world, we feel sad and empathetic, but hey what can we really do. Meanwhile our utilities, fuel, housing and food costs are skyrocketing, keeping us busy. Just as "they" intend it.
Then we watch our box, see that x% of people in countryY are starving, meanwhile the the gubba are building a soccer stadium and golf course with Saudi oil money...
Welcome to the Blunderdome.

[Landroval]

Fact of the matter is, you should actually go to primary sources on this matter. Origen wasn't exactly a universalist, in the modern sense of the word. He was posthumously declared heretical (and later restored from this categorization) because he stated that Christ's sacrifice was so substantial that it's redemptive properties could even extend to Satan himself, IF Satan were to repent, which he would never do due to his attachment to the Pride-matrix, and he expressed some concepts about the pre-existence of the soul prior to human conception. Aside from that, he was rather Orthodox, and is largely responsible for th vast majority of exegesis of the old testament, and clarification of stance on orthodoxy which predates the council of Nicea and the development of the Nicene Creed outlining hypostasis over Arianist and adoptionist perspectives on the nature of Christ's divinity/apotheosis

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just as "they" intend it.
Then we watch our box, see that x% of people in countryY are starving, meanwhile the the gubba are building a soccer stadium and golf course with Saudi oil money...
Welcome to the Blunderdome.

Eat here or we'll both starve.

[Landroval]

Who is "they"?

Qui?

[Landroval]

There's an interesting fact about the Early Church that is, essentially entirely overlooked.

Why was James the Just, Jesus' Brother, and the head of the Christian Church in Jerusalem, up until he was murdered by the Pharisee High Priest Ananus Ben Ananus, allowed to go into the Holy of the Holies and perform the annual scapegoat sacrifice rituals outlined in Leviticus 16, on Yom Kippur for nearly 3 decades after his initial fleeing to the caves of Qumran that Saul of Tarsus was dispatched to to exterminate him at "on the road to Damascus"?

Note, Simon Peter was officially the High Priest of Christendom at this time and the bylaws of pharisaism at this time, reflective of Torah Law, specifically prohibit anyone whatsoever from entering the holy of holies except for the high priest.

Why was James allowed to enter it for the atonement sacrifices?

[Landroval]

Addendum: source of the claim James was allowed to enter the Holy of Holies:

http://www.earlychristianwritings.co...egesippus.html

[Duik]

Originally Posted by Landroval [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who is "they"?

Qui?

The fucking "they" everyone here talks about. I dont believe that question was sincere however i will address it.
They, them. The men in black.

[Landroval]

Furthermore, if there is any truth to the claims that Origen castrated himself, which most historians believe was part of the latter Early Church's desire to besmirch his name based upon his temporary posthumous categorization as a heretic, it wasn't done so to arrogantly proclaim a trans-homosexual agenda, rather it was to eliminate his proclivity towards any and all sexual urgings. It's a bit disingenuous to co-opt the name as a champion of modern trans-homosexual aims.

[Duik]

Basing ones life on the writings of barely literate arabs is a tad insane dontcha fink? I mean sure, I love me a good story but really, the more we actually learnt about the world, the less sense the buyble made. Heretics became scholars of note, the christian faith kept back scientific advancement to protect the sanctity of the "book". Those people who claimed talk of a heliocentric universe was heresy are some of the "they" which you asked about earlier. Although the people change over the centuries, its still the same old schtick. Keepem down and stoopid. Easier to make them comply.