Shaman & Druid duo

[bigjeff100]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do best? Naw. Druids are wannabe quadders.

Never liked quadding until I played a Wizard. Infinitely more fun tagging mobs with flux staff, way better quads + evo spec, and mana regen while leveling. Get hit while gathering? Meh, np, epic absorbs that. Can round up mobs in a matter of seconds, vs having to snare all 4 until 57. Flux staff no doubt my favorite clicky in p99.

Wizard <3

I can respect everything you say.. But in my examples, i'm talking about othmirs specifically. Which you can't quad cause the shamans and named need to be harmonied. At 58, a druid would have their latest and greatest AE, and they would clearly have bonds of tunare.. Which i never use cause 1.8 snare is poop.. So i'm glad you found a toon you prefer over druid. But your introduction sentence isn't needed..

What your post is really saying is- I like wizards for quadding better due to flux staff and epic..

[Erati]

Originally Posted by bigjeff100 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What your post is really saying is- I like wizards for quadding better due to flux staff and epic..

Epic, as Rygar points out, would be very unlikely to have access to as your avg wizard quad leveler. Also the Flux staff is great for aggro ing mobs sure, but you still have got to gather them up and snare. Due to the terrible duration of wizard snare, you have to wait til all 4 of your mobs are stacked before you attempt, otherwise youll have snare wearing off during kite on individual ones making it pita to gather again even for 1 nuke. Then whats also shitty is you are landing AE snare on a pack of 4 mobs running at you, if they are not perfectly stacked, youll snare yourself many times!

Pulling mobs w initial ensnare and having no worry of it ever breaking really adds a nice perk to the leisure nature of druid quadding. SoW also makes things so much easier to manage than jboots, I know potions cheap but theres no replacement for casting the spell.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Epic, as Rygar points out, would be very unlikely to have access to as your avg wizard quad leveler. Also the Flux staff is great for aggro ing mobs sure, but you still have got to gather them up and snare. Due to the terrible duration of wizard snare, you have to wait til all 4 of your mobs are stacked before you attempt, otherwise youll have snare wearing off during kite on individual ones making it pita to gather again even for 1 nuke. Then whats also shitty is you are landing AE snare on a pack of 4 mobs running at you, if they are not perfectly stacked, youll snare yourself many times!

Pulling mobs w initial ensnare and having no worry of it ever breaking really adds a nice perk to the leisure nature of druid quadding. SoW also makes things so much easier to manage than jboots, I know potions cheap but theres no replacement for casting the spell.

Are you trollin' bro? Have you ever played a wizard? I'm guessing not by a few of these posts.

Wizard AE snare doesn't last 5 minutes. Their best one lasts 2.5 min. The lvl 29 one lasts even less, which I still use. Not hard to take down 6k+ hp mobs on one snare. Flux staff and slot 1 trick with quad makes this very fast. If you think it's going to wear off, one cast fixes that. I never worry about it breaking. Literally takes about 20-30 seconds to flux 4 mobs, gather them up unsnared, snare, and start nuking depending on mob availability.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you trollin' bro? Have you ever played a wizard? I'm guessing not by a few of these posts.

Wizard AE snare doesn't last 5 minutes. Their best one lasts 2.5 min. The lvl 29 one lasts even less, which I still use. Not hard to take down 6k+ hp mobs on one snare. Flux staff and slot 1 trick with quad makes this very fast. If you think it's going to wear off, one cast fixes that. I never worry about it breaking. Literally takes about 20-30 seconds to flux 4 mobs, gather them up unsnared, snare, and start nuking depending on mob availability.

Yes I have quadded leveling both a wizard and a druid. I was being generous w the wizard snare duration it seems. If you afk til full mana then afk again, sure wizards blow up a quad faster than a druid...but thats like not the way you efficiently quad over a period of time. If you are actually trying hard, you will start quads at min starting mana and hoping for no resists, this is where the duration bites you. Youll med during a quad to finish it and snare starts breaking now you gotta med just to resnare-ugh.

[bigjeff100]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you trollin' bro? Have you ever played a wizard? I'm guessing not by a few of these posts.

Wizard AE snare doesn't last 5 minutes. Their best one lasts 2.5 min. The lvl 29 one lasts even less, which I still use. Not hard to take down 6k+ hp mobs on one snare. Flux staff and slot 1 trick with quad makes this very fast. If you think it's going to wear off, one cast fixes that. I never worry about it breaking. Literally takes about 20-30 seconds to flux 4 mobs, gather them up unsnared, snare, and start nuking depending on mob availability.

I think the problem is.. You kinda started this Crede.. You made your opinion very very clear.. Which this post had nothing to do with wizards.. It's shamans and druids.. You voiced your opinion on quadding.. Now you get to deal with people who do not agree with you.. Best of luck to ya here.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by bigjeff100 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What your post is really saying is- I like wizards for quadding better due to flux staff and epic..

Thats partially true. But I also like wizards for quadding better due to AE snare at lvl 29, more access to mana regen early on, more efficient and powerful quads, evo spec(don't evo spec on a druid), and cooler races to look at in 3rd person.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by bigjeff100 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the problem is.. You kinda started this Crede.. You made your opinion very very clear.. Which this post had nothing to do with wizards.. It's shamans and druids.. You voiced your opinion on quadding.. Now you get to deal with people who do not agree with you.. Best of luck to ya here.

I'm fine with people disagreeing. It's when they use false facts when they really just don't know how to play the class.

Also, I was mostly being playful with my first post. I like druids, and I have one. But to say that ensnare is needed for a good quad is silly. 2-2.5 min is plenty of time to get the job done on a wizard

[bigjeff100]

Ok, but you shit up this guys thread by changing focus to wizards.. Don't do that Crede. If you want to discuss wizards as a better duo with a shaman then that's great..

PS- I miss my boy Nizern!! He was my wizard groupin buddy!! NIZERN WHERE ARE YOU!?!?!

[loramin]

Originally Posted by bigjeff100 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, but you shit up this guys thread by changing focus to wizards.. Don't do that Crede. If you want to discuss wizards as a better duo with a shaman then that's great..

PS- I miss my boy Nizern!! He was my wizard groupin buddy!! NIZERN WHERE ARE YOU!?!?!

Personally I just want to thank Crede from taking the focus in this thread off of my embarrassing memory failures, and instead directing all the hate back on Wizards ... where it belongs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm fine with people disagreeing. It's when they use false facts when they really just don't know how to play the class.

Also, I was mostly being playful with my first post. I like druids, and I have one. But to say that ensnare is needed for a good quad is silly. 2-2.5 min is plenty of time to get the job done on a wizard

Lol I didnt say these things at all, I mis-remembered how short wiz snare was bc I didnt look it up, only knew it has a shit duration compared to druid snare, which is accurate.

Again if you afk, med to full - a quad blows up faster w wiz no argument there...but thats also not that important to a debate about who is better at quad leveling, not who can delete a quad faster.

Also what mana regen at lower level you speaking of...harvest? Every ten min wow, druids get form of howler which has mana regen and speeed.