This game, this community... holy crap.

[iruinedyourday]

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Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Join red, experience content and leave this place satisfied.

Notice how the only real quitters are the ones who've seen everything? The eager neckbears are like mr meseeks just trying to help someone so they can end their life.

[Colgate]

wow i hope no one reads that dissertation a few posts above

i hope even more it was a copy/paste good god man

[Tuljin]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wow i hope no one reads that dissertation a few posts above

i hope even more it was a copy/paste good god man

Lol why dontcha jump over to the Raid Discussion thread, that's where the real "good God man" is

I just speak the fucking truth

[zanderklocke]

Was a little long Xoquil, but actually some of your points are somewhat true. However, I think apathy is probably a better way to deal with this server than frustration or anger. At the end of the day, nothing on this server that happens really matters, so it's really not worth getting angry about if you still have a social life and enjoy doing other things outside of the game.

[Tuljin]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was a little long Xoquil, but actually some of your points are somewhat true. However, I think apathy is probably a better way to deal with this server than frustration or anger. At the end of the day, nothing on this server that happens really matters, so it's really not worth getting angry about if you still have a social life and enjoy doing other things outside of the game.

Yeah dude I tried to keep it short but my WoW hypothesis takes a little bit to spin out effectively =)

I definitely exercise apathy in the sense that I log in at night, I play and do my own thing, and I don't participate in the "raid" bullshit of this server. I don't contribute to the activities of any "raid" guild and I don't contribute the exploitation of every single rule as well as the exploitation of nubs just to get pixels. (Unlike the cabal)

I realize some of these people get their kicks from yelling at 100 other nerds in Teamspeak on a "raid," and I never had any interest in taking any part of that. I have a rich social and professional life which is why I can't/don't batphone. I can see why its "fun" for those people, however I've done the whole bite-my-tongue thing for loot and it fucking sucks.

The problem is -too- many people are apathetic, and yet they still bitch.

My message is "well fucking do something about it." If you line up for pixels every week you're part of the problem. If you're not speaking up because you're afraid of the pixel faucet getting turned off you're putting all the power into the cabal's hands and you are part of the problem (RnF gag, for example)

The cabal is why everybody is bitching today. Its not the server staff's fault for implementing variance, its the players' fault for letting it escalate to this point.

If I sound "angry" its because after playing here for 5 years (on and off, not goin' hard like these fucking maniacs) you realize that its just usual suspects and its the same shit, different day. Also, 5 years of the same bullshit morphing and evolving into even worse bullshit, you realize that having any type of reasonable, substantial discussion with any of "these people" is an exercise in futility and they only way to elicit any type of response from "these people" is to fucking bludgeon them with a verbal ball peen hammer.

Escalation is the name of the game here, friends.

I think P99 needs a few little birdies who have been around a while who are capable of calling the cabal on their bullshit. The problem is with all the constant fresh blood to the server "these people" do what they want with impunity because people buy into their bullshit and nobody offers a viable alternative.

This is why the "raid" bullshit has escalated to the meeting that will happen Sunday, which will quite possibly be the biggest summit of no-life idiots and assholes that the Internet has ever seen.

My "dissertation" I wrote is a fucking Curious George book compared to the tomes of EQ law that "these people" have come up with.

I welcome any and all correspondence regarding my thoughts and opinions, unlike the "raid" cabal. They'll just keep blowing hot air and listening to themselves talk and feel important, which has been their game all along and is the fundamental reason why "we all can't get along." They don't want to listen to anyone and they want to keep the loot for their co-conspirators. That mindset has been blatantly expressed on these boards for years.

I can't wait to hear who "takes their ball and goes home" on Sunday. I hope that the GMs spite all of you into the biggest care bear rotation conceivable.

You make the bed you sleep in.

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Tuljin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah dude I tried to keep it short but my WoW hypothesis takes a little bit to spin out effectively =)

I definitely exercise apathy in the sense that I log in at night, I play and do my own thing, and I don't participate in the "raid" bullshit of this server. I don't contribute to the activities of any "raid" guild and I don't contribute the exploitation of every single rule as well as the exploitation of nubs just to get pixels. (Unlike the cabal)

I realize some of these people get their kicks from yelling at 100 other nerds in Teamspeak on a "raid," and I never had any interest in taking any part of that. I have a rich social and professional life which is why I can't/don't batphone. I can see why its "fun" for those people, however I've done the whole bite-my-tongue thing for loot and it fucking sucks.

The problem is -too- many people are apathetic, and yet they still bitch.

My message is "well fucking do something about it." If you line up for pixels every week you're part of the problem. If you're not speaking up because you're afraid of the pixel faucet getting turned off you're putting all the power into the cabal's hands and you are part of the problem (RnF gag, for example)

The cabal is why everybody is bitching today. Its not the server staff's fault for implementing variance, its the players' fault for letting it escalate to this point.

If I sound "angry" its because after playing here for 5 years (on and off, not goin' hard like these fucking maniacs) you realize that its just usual suspects and its the same shit, different day. Also, 5 years of the same bullshit morphing and evolving into even worse bullshit, you realize that having any type of reasonable, substantial discussion with any of "these people" is an exercise in futility and they only way to elicit any type of response from "these people" is to fucking bludgeon them with a verbal ball peen hammer.

Escalation is the name of the game here, friends.

I think P99 needs a few little birdies who have been around a while who are capable of calling the cabal on their bullshit. The problem is with all the constant fresh blood to the server "these people" do what they want with impunity because people buy into their bullshit and nobody offers a viable alternative.

This is why the "raid" bullshit has escalated to the meeting that will happen Sunday, which will quite possibly be the biggest summit of no-life idiots and assholes that the Internet has ever seen.

My "dissertation" I wrote is a fucking Curious George book compared to the tomes of EQ law that "these people" have come up with.

I welcome any and all correspondence regarding my thoughts and opinions, unlike the "raid" cabal. They'll just keep blowing hot air and listening to themselves talk and feel important, which has been their game all along and is the fundamental reason why "we all can't get along." They don't want to listen to anyone and they want to keep the loot for their co-conspirators. That mindset has been blatantly expressed on these boards for years.

I can't wait to hear who "takes their ball and goes home" on Sunday. I hope that the GMs spite all of you into the biggest care bear rotation conceivable.

You make the bed you sleep in.

Originally Posted by Uomanrotyr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A bit off topic, but RnF and all... A lot of people around here love to bash on instances. Having played on live for years and years, both before and after instances, I get it. To an extent.

By no means did it make raiding easier. Just bc content reached a point it was designed to be beat in a specific amount of time didn't mean it would be easier content. For a long time, it was quite the opposite. It required a full 54 man raid force being able to react in an instant and at times even just the slightest falter by any member of the raid would cause a wipe. The problem is they failed to balance risk vs reward after death was no longer a real punishment for failure. You wipe a few times, go farm some easier content to gear up the weaker members of the raid and come back later.

The biggest thing I remember about instances is how they destroyed most of the end-game raiding guilds of the time. Why? Bc, before that point, it had never been about the best group of players being able to engage and beat the hardest content. It was about the biggest collective of people who could pop on at any time of day to prevent other collectives of people from engaging a mob necessary to advance to the next tier of content. Surprise, surprise, this servers raiding seems to consist of many of those people who couldn't cut it post-instanced raiding. Basing your skill as a player around your guilds ability to prevent other people from competing on a level playing field is pathetic. Instances proved that.

I'm not saying the raid scene on live is in a good place. When they literally started copy/pasting group instances and scaling them for 54 people and calling them raids, that was just pathetic. And not even that. It was scaled up group instances designed for 6-12 engaged players and a bunch of auto-attack bots when I finally quit.

The last thing I'll say about instances is this; they slowly eroded the social aspect of the game. Primarily grouping. There was a lot of good that came with them, but the way they were implemented forced people to create a bot army to farm them. Here, you might miss out on a named drop. There will still be even just a 2-6% chance he'll spawn and drop it again at any point in the next few cycles. With instances, you could be locked out for a day or more bc... reasons. So it literally awarded boxing while punishing people who couldn't box for any number of reasons.

As far as the community here, I'd say that the % of dbags is roughly the same as any other online community. That said, this server has more active players online at its low times than live servers do at their peak times. So while the % is probably the same, you have to deal w/ more of those people simply bc there are more people. There is also a lot loss content, so competition is exponentially higher.

does anyone even read these posts?

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