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Old 09-01-2021, 04:49 AM
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I dunno, increased from what, that single digit 9 pop before xp in pvp was removed?
It increased to high 200's/low 300's, after previously only ever being in the 100's.
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Old 09-01-2021, 12:51 PM
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If you argue amongst yourself it will probably show the staff you guys are ready to grow up and get a new server. You people can't even help not attacking each other
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Old 09-01-2021, 02:23 PM
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Old 09-01-2021, 05:32 PM
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Maybe tomorrow will be the day we get some red 2.0 news [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-01-2021, 06:25 PM
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If you argue amongst yourself it will probably show the staff you guys are ready to grow up and get a new server. You people can't even help not attacking each other
Discussions about the server's health/history isn't attacking each other.

The staff doesn't need to see anything from the community. It seems their top goal is just to get as many people playing as possible and that would definitely be achieved, with little effort on their part, by merging the current Red into Blue and starting the server over with an overall hands-off approach, but with a better ruleset.
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Old 09-02-2021, 01:21 AM
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Discussions about the server's health/history isn't attacking each other.

The staff doesn't need to see anything from the community. It seems their top goal is just to get as many people playing as possible and that would definitely be achieved, with little effort on their part, by merging the current Red into Blue and starting the server over with an overall hands-off approach, but with a better ruleset.
Red has had almost no competition since it has began. Merging it with blue, which has had competition since it launched is a horrible idea. Red is dead and has pretty much always been dead. You guys trolled your way out of a new server, which sucks for the few good people on red.

Best advice is make do with what Rogean has left you guys with. And make this a learning lesson, don't bite the hands that feeds you.
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Old 09-02-2021, 05:41 AM
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Red has had almost no competition since it has began. Merging it with blue, which has had competition since it launched is a horrible idea. Red is dead and has pretty much always been dead. You guys trolled your way out of a new server, which sucks for the few good people on red.

Best advice is make do with what Rogean has left you guys with. And make this a learning lesson, don't bite the hands that feeds you.
I, for one, am not against the idea of merging Red 1.0 into Blue before a wipe and Red 2.0. There are few enough from Red 1.0 with meaningful enough gear to affect endgame Blue to warrant any kind of concern. Better to stick with their promise of never wiping the toon this way than leaving Red 1.0 an empty museum that nobody visits (compared to Blue, a museum that has more frequent visitors).
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Old 09-02-2021, 06:45 AM
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Red has had almost no competition since it has began. Merging it with blue, which has had competition since it launched is a horrible idea.
Merging with Blue would have no negative impact on that server whatsoever.

Also, real competition doesn't exist on Blue. Things drop MORE on that server since there is no downtime at all in when things get killed, whereas on Red server the raid targets were frequently delayed by PvP. Or, by the server population. See the recent discussions about how Red server hasn't been killing anything in North ToV for the past couple years.

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Red is dead and has pretty much always been dead.
It definitely wasn't "pretty much always dead". Saying to make do with the inherently flawed ruleset of the server is also dumb reasoning. It's the the fault of the dev's and their own misunderstanding, not the community. This server wouldn't have been any better in you were to swap in any same number of players from Blue server instead. That server already shows tons of toxicity, they just don't get to directly fight each other in game.
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Old 09-02-2021, 09:01 AM
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Let's be honest, you guys wants a merge so you can sell your worthless accounts for real money. If not, you would play blue.
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Old 09-02-2021, 09:06 AM
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Merging with Blue would have no negative impact on that server whatsoever.

Also, real competition doesn't exist on Blue. Things drop MORE on that server since there is no downtime at all in when things get killed, whereas on Red server the raid targets were frequently delayed by PvP. Or, by the server population. See the recent discussions about how Red server hasn't been killing anything in North ToV for the past couple years.



It definitely wasn't "pretty much always dead". Saying to make do with the inherently flawed ruleset of the server is also dumb reasoning. It's the the fault of the dev's and their own misunderstanding, not the community. This server wouldn't have been any better in you were to swap in any same number of players from Blue server instead. That server already shows tons of toxicity, they just don't get to directly fight each other in game.
1) I'm talking droppable items that will ruin our economy. Platinum that will ruin our economy.

2) Back to blaming staff. I'm sure they're just rushing to get you a server out. You people never learn.
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