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Old 08-05-2016, 01:43 PM
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Proof or you are a total fucking liar. I have presented proof that I think he is a good member of the community. You on the other hand have done nothing but name call and perpetuate your ideas.
Seriously? You seriously need proof that he is a worthless pos? Look through any post in the past few months where he refuses to bury the hatchet and forget about BDA, trolling their guild recruitment page, ignoring information about the Phinny server, shitposting "try red" more than anyone else, etc etc etc. He was like the Harrison to TMO, but at least Harrison was well enough adjusted to forget about it and move on.

Or how about that grandiose "retirement" thread he made awhile back and everyone hated on him? Wonder how long that retirement lasted (hint, not long). Or how about his petty attention seeking fitness threads about how he burns 2000 calories a day or some BS. Now he even went as far as to ask for money from the community for a "race." How can you be so biased in the other direction? The dude lives on these boards and is clearly attention starved. Unfortunately all this thread is doing is fueling his ego and that drive for attention. Really it just goes to show how pathetic he really is.

Some of his posts are just so dumb they've gotten to the point of the "hurr durr look at how retarded I am, ha ha I was only pretending" meme level. Yet here you are trying to convince everyone how amazing he is. Baler = Swish alt account?
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Old 08-05-2016, 01:45 PM
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Swish got me seriously interested in red. He helped me understand the lay of the land on there. In turn I had a fantastic experience. I PVP'd in Everquest and it wasn't bad. I believe swish is a good community member.
This is fine if that's your opinion of him, I just think these are things you should share with him, not a community forum. The guy got banned for being bad.

show your support by contacting him and comfort him or whatever you want, but no one here will change their mind about him because you explain your personal feelings about him.

Just sayin'.
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Old 08-05-2016, 01:47 PM
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BDA went to Phinny and seems most the Swish haters were them. I never had an issue with BDA and questioned the fervor of Swish's crusade against them, but I think he was just looking to defend the interests of smaller guilds. Whether you are with him in that crusade or not, he's always been helpful to new and existing players, giving advice on gameplay and tech, etc.
it's not just that, maskedmelon. there was the fry bread crusade. you don't mind that because you were convinced by it. baler doesn't mind that because he was convinced by that too.

but there was a time for years where every.single.thread he posted was "try red" in some way. I distinctly remember some video he posted where it was a big ol advertisement for red, even said on top "this is why people play red!!" or some bullshit, and then he disingenuously claimed he wasn't trying to advertise for red - to the point that he *deleted that caption on the video* after he got called out on it.

he has a history of trying to elude responsibility for his actions, deny that they occurred, and then flip things by being his "detractors" unfairly accusing him, while he only had the best interests of the server all along - a tactic shared by baler's defense efforts here.

if he was really interested in helping the little guy, he'd do that instead of trying to push his hobby horses.

his advice is also generally terrible, and was all the more so because he spent a lot of time giving advice about blue while not playing on it, but that's more or less besides the point.

in the end, someone who takes every opportunity to push their agenda is no better than a paid pop up advertisement, and equally annoying. I use ignore, but the damage he does to threads by people who respond to him remains.
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Old 08-05-2016, 01:49 PM
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I wont even comment on the first part of your post because you're trying to drag BDA baggage into this thread and continue with the name calling.

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Or how about that grandiose "retirement" thread he made awhile back
A lot of people won't get this but sometimes people need a break and they feel attached to a community. It's hard to just step away. They need a reason. If you can't accept that answer that's fine but some people need that extra layer. Doesn't mean It's a bad thing. Just a part of what makes us human.


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Some of his posts are just so dumb they've gotten to the point of the "hurr durr look at how retarded I am, ha ha I was only pretending" meme level. Yet here you are trying to convince everyone how amazing he is.
Did you really mean to post this or did you spaz out at the keyboard? Because none of this part made any fucking sense i'm going to be real with you. From one man to another. this was pretty trash. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I know what you're trying to say but it didn't translate well for me.
If you're better then you make him out to be this is not the way to prove it. I don't mean this part of my reply as a slam either. sorry.

Also I want to state that I don't think he is amazing. I think he is a good member that didn't deserve what happened to him. I wish they'd of talked to him instead of slamming him. That's all man. I really don't want to argue with you. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I brought it upon myself and I understand this.


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Baler = Swish alt account?
What is it with people. I am not on staff and I am not swish.

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I think the worst part is how some of you are casting Swish out while you put yourself on a golden pedestal.
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Old 08-05-2016, 01:52 PM
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it's not just that, maskedmelon. there was the fry bread crusade. you don't mind that because you were convinced by it. baler doesn't mind that because he was convinced by that too.

but there was a time for years where every.single.thread he posted was "try red" in some way. I distinctly remember some video he posted where it was a big ol advertisement for red, even said on top "this is why people play red!!" or some bullshit, and then he disingenuously claimed he wasn't trying to advertise for red - to the point that he *deleted that caption on the video* after he got called out on it.

he has a history of trying to elude responsibility for his actions, deny that they occurred, and then flip things by being his "detractors" unfairly accusing him, while he only had the best interests of the server all along - a tactic shared by baler's defense efforts here.

if he was really interested in helping the little guy, he'd do that instead of trying to push his hobby horses.

his advice is also generally terrible, and was all the more so because he spent a lot of time giving advice about blue while not playing on it, but that's more or less besides the point.

in the end, someone who takes every opportunity to push their agenda is no better than a paid pop up advertisement, and equally annoying. I use ignore, but the damage he does to threads by people who respond to him remains.

Yeah but those annoying pop ups are sometimes funny and interesting to watch and see what happens next.
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Old 08-05-2016, 02:13 PM
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it's not just that, maskedmelon. there was the fry bread crusade. you don't mind that because you were convinced by it. baler doesn't mind that because he was convinced by that too.

but there was a time for years where every.single.thread he posted was "try red" in some way. I distinctly remember some video he posted where it was a big ol advertisement for red, even said on top "this is why people play red!!" or some bullshit, and then he disingenuously claimed he wasn't trying to advertise for red - to the point that he *deleted that caption on the video* after he got called out on it.

he has a history of trying to elude responsibility for his actions, deny that they occurred, and then flip things by being his "detractors" unfairly accusing him, while he only had the best interests of the server all along - a tactic shared by baler's defense efforts here.

if he was really interested in helping the little guy, he'd do that instead of trying to push his hobby horses.

his advice is also generally terrible, and was all the more so because he spent a lot of time giving advice about blue while not playing on it, but that's more or less besides the point.

in the end, someone who takes every opportunity to push their agenda is no better than a paid pop up advertisement, and equally annoying. I use ignore, but the damage he does to threads by people who respond to him remains.
I understand there are some (perhaps) people who were rubbed wrong by the try red campaign, but I don't think it wasn't some malicious thing. He found something special there and wanted to share it. I know this, because so did I thanks to him! With the negative image red had from a "colorful" community and questionable implementation.

Most people didnt care to give it a go. They had opinions they didn't care to question and just wanted to be left alone. I heartily sympathize with the latter! I tend to just skim past stuff I don't want to read, but am generally not significantly bothered by much so have it easy I guess in that regard ^^ and I ended up giving it a go and had fun. For everyone else there is always a big shiny ignore button.

Swish undeniably knew many people were annoyed simply by the reception his advertisements generally received, but he pushed on because he wanted others to be able to enjoy the same experience he'd stumbled upon. I could be wrong of course and it could all have been some self-serving delusion as you suggest, but I don't see it that way ^^
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Old 08-05-2016, 02:20 PM
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You can't ignore the BDA crap like you conveniently want to because it is still happening all the god damn time. Wow, BDA toppled the rotation like three years ago. However it's pretty difficult to realize that since he mentions it every time BDA comes up or they discuss the stuff they're doing on Phinny.

I don't really get what you're trying to get at with the retirement thing. Facts are facts. He posted a thread, tried to make his goodbyes, people unsurprisingly flamed him, and he said he wasn't coming back. Well guess what. He came back and continued to shitpost the same try red and anti BDA bs with the same furor as before. That, coupled with the workout claims and now the fundraising thread basically show how much of an attention whore he is, and if I can't stand a trait in a person, it's attention-seeking behavior.

Spare me the sarcasm, I'm posting from my phone and am probably making errors. Here's the facts: Swish is an attention seeking whore who shitposts constantly, is unable to move past events that happened years ago, seemingly lives on these boards (pathetic), and has devolved into the point where he makes retarded posts then claims to have trolled you because you called him out for being so retarded. I'm glad you guys were able to have a nice totally not gay moment on red together. I don't know what else to say because we're not going to change each other's minds. Swish is still retarded, I'm glad he's gone for a while, and I'll be disappointed to see his drivel back here the moment his ban is up.

You're still a pretty cool guy from your posts in the D2 OT thread.
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Old 08-05-2016, 02:39 PM
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He's a guide. He can just unban himself, right?
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Old 08-05-2016, 03:23 PM
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I hope the staff do their job in keeping an actual Server Chat thread. Instead of lazily moving it to RnF or Off Topic.

Please don't punish all of us because a select few choose to abuse their privileges. Swish is a good man. I feel bad that people have to resort to this level of immaturity to try and get attention.
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