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Old 08-15-2023, 08:00 PM
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DEX is also easy to cap with buffs, you can get over 200 from buffs alone.
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Old 08-15-2023, 08:02 PM
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DEX is also easy to cap with buffs, you can get over 200 from buffs alone.



You said that too on the first page.
I've changed my mind as well. I wouldn't even recommend it for ogres and trolls now; that's the strength of your arguments

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Int is just max mana though, and minimally relevant for most SK content where mana regen is the limiter. I'd hesitatingly recommend it for trolls and ogres maybe.

For an iksar, str or stamina is probably going to be more efficacious in the likely massive amount of time between being a fresh, twinked level 1 and actually capping those stats without buffs. Go int though if you're able to cap or close to cap with the gear available.
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Old 08-15-2023, 08:02 PM
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This is the core flaw with your thought process. You are falsely claiming that stat caps and statistical distributions of stats on gear are not a valid part of the conversation.

I am not sure how you think I can satisfy you when your basic premises are factually incorrect.
Let's say you have a 20 gallon gas tank in your car, and yet you spend 95% of your active drive time with the tank filled between 5 and 15 gallons.

That being the case, what practical value would you receive from spending money to upgrade to a 21 gallon tank?
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Old 08-15-2023, 08:07 PM
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Let's say you have a 20 gallon gas tank in your car, and yet you spend 95% of your active drive time with the tank filled between 5 and 15 gallons.

That being the case, what practical value would you receive from spending money to upgrade to a 21 gallon tank?
Using your analogy, INT is constantly having a 16 gallon tank. STR is having a small 1 gallon attachment to your 15 gallon tank that occasionally falls off.

Would you prefer a 16 gallon tank, or a 15 gallon tank with a 1 gallon attachment that sometimes falls off?

When you are stat capped, you get nothing.
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Old 08-15-2023, 08:45 PM
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Using your analogy, INT is constantly having a 16 gallon tank. STR is having a small 1 gallon attachment to your 15 gallon tank that occasionally falls off.
No. It’s like having a 16 gallon tank vs having a car with a 15 gallon tank that gets at least 10% more miles per gallon WHILE hauling a small Uhaul.

Gas is expensive.

I’d rather have 10% better fuel efficiency.

(5% faster kills and 5% less damage taken to recover)

Ps: your analogy fails
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Old 08-15-2023, 08:48 PM
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Guys, if we keep responding I promise we can get 400 more pages out of this. DSM’s autism mandates he will never relent.
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Old 08-15-2023, 08:59 PM
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(5% faster kills and 5% less damage taken to recover)

Ps: your analogy fails
It doesn't fail, and you keep posting this fabrication that 5% more DPS always results extra in kills per hour, or meaningful decreases in downtime.

Please stop posting this, as it is false. It is trivial to prove you wrong, and I have done it multiple times already.
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Old 08-15-2023, 09:05 PM
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str for carrying weight alone while leveling feels really nice. the damage benefit is obviously good too. it'll overcap eventually w/ good gear and shaman buffs at 60 but it helps during the part of the game where you're riding the struggle bus.

int is obviously better in the situations where ur str is capped and getting 1 extra spell off from the last of ur mana pool will be clutch but those situations are a lot less common and normally only happens when u fuck up.

ultimately the difference is really minor either way and your gameplay / who you chose to play with will make way more of a difference than 20 stats. i cannot stress enough how unimportant of a decision ur starting stats are. i dont know how this thread got to 62 pages w/ ppl busting out the source code to prove that having more strength will make u hit harder.
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Old 08-15-2023, 09:10 PM
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i dont know how this thread got to 62 pages w/ ppl busting out the source code to prove that having more strength will make u hit harder.
Welcome to your first DSM thread.

There will undoubtedly be more to come.
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Old 08-15-2023, 09:13 PM
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i dont know how this thread got to 62 pages w/ ppl busting out the source code to prove that having more strength will make u hit harder.
Unfortunately posters like Troxx are known trolls, who bloat threads for no reason other than self gratification.

It is a well established pattern by now. Does it help anyone? No, but he doesn't care. The other trolls don't care either.

The only thing I can do is drown their misinformation in facts.
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