Why are trolls online so mean?

[magnetaress]

Still dancing around the morality of online trolling I see...

If you accept Jesus as your lord and salvation then you will have much less desire to troll ppl online if none at a if you are able to be true in your faith.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still dancing around the morality of online trolling I see...

If you accept Jesus as your lord and salvation then you will have much less desire to troll ppl online if none at a if you are able to be true in your faith.

I don’t want to seem too nit-picky, but just trying to show how a psychotic person probably would be able to handle trolling

I guess an easy to follow example would be: everyone has seen a homeless person actively hallucinating yelling at people who aren’t there. If you put that person in front of a computer and said you would give them $1000 if they would troll people on a message board or video game they still wouldn’t be able to handle it. Most likely that computer would get broken in some way

“Psychopath” (that you’ve used) is probably a better descriptor for a troll than “psychotic”

But again, not trying to nit pick

[magnetaress]

Yes I agree someone disconnected from reality isn't even going to be a good online troll.

When I talk about psychopathy it's in the general sense of a lack of empathy for others. Plenty of grounded and rational people fit that definition.


I'm not talking about people having a "psychotic episode" or completely detached from reality.


The truth is 99% of people lack the proper levels of empathy to be good people. Even if they hide it well in person it surely shows when they are no longer in fear or anxiety about being mistreated because they are essentially assholes who worship Satan and materialism.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes I agree someone disconnected from reality isn't even going to be a good online troll.

When I talk about psychopathy it's in the general sense of a lack of empathy for others. Plenty of grounded and rational people fit that definition.


I'm not talking about people having a "psychotic episode" or completely detached from reality.


The truth is 99% of people lack the proper levels of empathy to be good people. Even if they hide it well in person it surely shows when they are no longer in fear or anxiety about being mistreated because they are essentially assholes who worship Satan and materialism.

Ya it’s about a lack of empathy for sure

[magnetaress]

I don't know. To me it's just insane not to try and have empathy for others. Even if you have to "use force" or "stop them" it can still be done with empathy.

So I see trolling as a form of insanity that Satan has afflicted the people of the world with and I honestly see little hope for them.

So no I don't think trolling should be written off as just normal or sane behavior...like because ppl feel safe an anonymous that is just a surface level delusion. Again Satan here.

[magnetaress]

Or one of his minions. Like either way.


So what I was communicating was:


Online trolls are satanic engaging in Satan worshipping and egotistical masturbation.

Very few will likely ever be saved and you can't really help a Satan worshipping person (basically everyone these days) who doesn't want help and can't force them to be good. So treat Online trolls like normal ppl irl and ignore the fuck out of them as much as possible or have a gentle laugh as they ignore any wisdom imparted and continue to engage in their deeply delusional behavior.

[unsunghero]

This is a side-gripe but I have assisted in mental health trainings for police officers multiple times now because it’s more chill and relaxed than my usual work, and I still obv am getting paid for it. This is by giving recommendations, work anecdotes and doing role plays, which I play a mentally ill suspect and they practice conversing with and de-escalating me. And of course I’m instructed to not make it easy for them

And one of the scenarios that the organizers always picks for a role play is a veteran who is disassociating to being back in a war zone. Any other mental health disorder I’ve seen many times. Psychosis is hard to convincingly “fake”, but what I do is just mimic as best I can what I’ve seen clients do and say and how they act, and usually get praise for realism. But I can’t mimic a disassociating veteran because in 16 years I’ve never seen it once

But I do what I’m told and still try [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a side-gripe but I have assisted in mental health trainings for police officers multiple times now because it’s more chill and relaxed than my usual work, and I still obv am getting paid for it. This is by giving recommendations, work anecdotes and doing role plays, which I play a mentally ill suspect and they practice conversing with and de-escalating me. And of course I’m instructed to not make it easy for them

And one of the scenarios that the organizers always picks for a role play is a veteran who is disassociating to being back in a war zone. Any other mental health disorder I’ve seen many times. Psychosis is hard to convincingly “fake”, but what I do is just mimic as best I can what I’ve seen clients do and say and how they act, and usually get praise for realism. But I can’t mimic a disassociating veteran because in 16 years I’ve never seen it once

But I do what I’m told and still try [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i think what happens is when a combat veteran dissosciates like this it usually ends up in multiple deaths so ur not going to be on those calls very often its a v sad thing

[unsunghero]

Last work anecdote: a long time ago we had a young adult guy who was deemed SMI status (serious mental illness) which people typically only got for psychotic disorders, who was having delusions of persecution and paranoid

We heard from his case manager he had just set his car on fire, ruining it. We were transporting him to a psych hospital and could tell he was symptomatic and becoming more escalated in the back. What made it worse was we were stuck in gridlock traffic for 30 mins longer than the drive should have taken. And I had to piss the worst I ever had to in my life. I couldn’t just jump out to pee on the freeway in front of a client, even if he was psychotic

So when we finally got to the psych hospital I was almost running in to avoid pissing my pants. And as I’m zipping in, I see out of the corner of my eye that the client has immediately upon exiting the vehicle put his $700 iphone on the ground and began to smash it with a rock. I remember wincing and thinking “man the car and now the phone, you are going to regret that once we get you mentally stable, that sucks man”

When I came out of the bathroom there was the client holding the rock like a weapon with police in front of him tasers out. They and us talked him into putting the rock down and going in voluntarily. He was saying that assassins had been tracking his phone and were coming to kill him

Afterwards my female partner was angry at me for days. She was like “you abandoned me with a psychotic hostile client”, and I bought her lunch and apologized every way I could because she was entirely in the right. I just told her I couldn’t piss my pants at work. She eventually forgave me

Moral of the story is sometimes psychotic people will break their own electronics on purpose too

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Last work anecdote: a long time ago we had a young adult guy who was deemed SMI status (serious mental illness) which people typically only got for psychotic disorders, who was having delusions of persecution and paranoid

We heard from his case manager he had just set his car on fire, ruining it. We were transporting him to a psych hospital and could tell he was symptomatic and becoming more escalated in the back. What made it worse was we were stuck in gridlock traffic for 30 mins longer than the drive should have taken. And I had to piss the worst I ever had to in my life. I couldn’t just jump out to pee on the freeway in front of a client, even if he was psychotic

So when we finally got to the psych hospital I was almost running in to avoid pissing my pants. And as I’m zipping in, I see out of the corner of my eye that the client has immediately upon exiting the vehicle put his $700 iphone on the ground and began to smash it with a rock. I remember wincing and thinking “man the car and now the phone, you are going to regret that once we get you mentally stable, that sucks man”

When I came out of the bathroom there was the client holding the rock like a weapon with police in front of him tasers out. They and us talked him into putting the rock down and going in voluntarily. He was saying that assassins had been tracking his phone and were coming to kill him

Afterwards my female partner was angry at me for days. She was like “you abandoned me with a psychotic hostile client”, and I bought her lunch and apologized every way I could because she was entirely in the right. I just told her I couldn’t piss my pants at work. She eventually forgave me

Moral of the story is sometimes psychotic people will break their own electronics on purpose too

Thank you for sharing. This is how the typical online troll behaves in public.