its been a good run

[Goodboy]

Originally Posted by budz2112 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"not worth" = Cant, Doesnt matter how I feel you cant name one good thing he has done. Because he hasnt done one good thing.. oh and that first sentence is laughable, all we are is saying everyone should be treated equally. Its the basis of the bill of rights, you can dance around it all you want, its pretty obvious you dont believe in it

The conversation will go something like this:

you: "Obama pushed through the ACA. Isnt that great? Everyone will have health insurance now"

me: "no thats not great, premiums have gone up, coverage is lacking, i couldnt keep my doctor or my policy"


ETC ETC. whats good for you may not be good for me, and vice versa. So you asking me to name one good thing that Trump has done is kind of an incomplete question. Because everyone percieves policies differently. The green new deal will be a disaster in my eyes, but maybe you feel differently, IDK.

So to reinforce my point, when I say that Trump slowed illegal immigration way down and also increased border apprehensions, I look at that as a positive, but you look at that as a negative. You will call me a racist, but the reality is, Democrats shared border security under the Obama administration - Less unskilled labor coming into our country means better paying jobs for non college educated people.

Finally, the source code says this "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

[imperiouskitten]

Originally Posted by Goodboy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

when I say that Trump slowed illegal immigration way down and also increased border apprehensions, I look at that as a positive, but you look at that as a negative. You will call me a racist, but the reality is, Democrats shared border security under the Obama administration - Less unskilled labor coming into our country means better paying jobs for non college educated people.

actually we hit record numbers of illegal crossings and record low deportations of alien criminals. Obama did better. This is why Trump sucks from every single vantage point unless you literally believe in falsehoods. There is also no wall. The more you know.

[budz2112]

Premiums went up every year in American history. In fact the rate that they went up has declined since the ACA, with the additions of 20 million American being covered and not having to go to emergency rooms where YOUR TAXES would pay for it anyways, as well as all Americans having the dignity of being covered regardless of their health conditions they were born with or developed. Sounds like a good thing to me, this is how a debate goes. If your not willing, you already lost the debate. By the way what a FAILED POINT to bring up, you didnt even get rid of the ACA in 4 years, 2 of which you had control of congress and the presidency. McCain let you know you had no plan, and your a bunch of liars who had nothing to offer for healthcare. Want to go on to another "good thing" trump has done... Oh and locking children in cages, and separating them from their mothers is NOT A GOOD border policy, limiting immigration is one thing, doing what you guys did is reprehensible

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Goodboy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im no longer a planar protector. Yes I find this triggering. I didn't know that being a part of this forum required a declaration of faith to the democratic party.

Gonna go ahead and guess that it wasn’t your avatar that got you banned

[budz2112]

And last the bill of rights is a document that entails how you TREAT people in America.

[Goodboy]

Originally Posted by imperiouskitten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

actually we hit record numbers of illegal crossings and record low deportations of alien criminals. Obama did better. This is why Trump sucks from every single vantage point unless you literally believe in falsehoods. The more you know.

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[budz2112]

So tell me what good limiting those immigrants in this country did for America? did it reduce the deficit, give more employment to American born people, slow down crime? Nope none of the above? so why is it a good thing?

[imperiouskitten]

Originally Posted by Goodboy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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stat doesn't stand alone. give the other relevant numbers

[Goodboy]

Originally Posted by budz2112 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Premiums went up every year in American history. In fact the rate that they went up has declined since the ACA, with the additions of 20 million American being covered and not having to go to emergency rooms where YOUR TAXES would pay for it anyways, as well as all Americans having the dignity of being covered regardless of their health conditions they were born with or developed. Sounds like a good thing to me, this is how a debate goes. If your not willing, you already lost the debate. By the way what a FAILED POINT to bring up, you didnt even get rid of the ACA in 4 years, 2 of which you had control of congress and the presidency. McCain let you know you had no plan, and your a bunch of liars who had nothing to offer for healthcare. Want to go on to another "good thing" trump has done... Oh and locking children in cages, and separating them from their mothers is NOT A GOOD border policy, limiting immigration is one thing, doing what you guys did is reprehensible

Brother, I dont have the time to do it. I see you have like 130 posts in January of 2021. Im not trying to cut you down, but its taken me several years to hit 1000 posts. Lets just agree to disagree.

[budz2112]

Right, you cant. And no I dont agree to disagree, that requires respecting your view, I dont in any way