level from 45-60 or wait pantheon release

[Hitmonkey]

It's going to be a giant shit show and dead in 3 months.

Instead of creating something original they're trying to copy and capture lightning in a bottle that never works out

[rekreant]

Im way more excited for p99 "green/recycle" server starting than I am for any new IP who is just trying to recreate the past with a new face. Everquest is great because it was innovative, not because its an mmo. WoW got big cause it dialed the innovation up to 11 and streamlined the experience so more people could enjoy it. Those are the opposite ends of the spectrum and most of the stuff in between is garbage lol.

[Uuruk]

Originally Posted by rekreant [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im way more excited for p99 "green/recycle" server starting than I am for any new IP who is just trying to recreate the past with a new face. Everquest is great because it was innovative, not because its an mmo. WoW got big cause it dialed the innovation up to 11 and streamlined the experience so more people could enjoy it. Those are the opposite ends of the spectrum and most of the stuff in between is garbage lol.

Same, I heard green was coming right after discord

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by Uuruk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Same, I heard green was coming right after discord

Discord is out but unfortunately the server seems to be down again [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[rekreant]

Originally Posted by Issar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is true about every mmorpg in a true high fantasy setting, and they are all derived from D&D.

True, which was all derived from Tolkien. I feel a sufficient enough change with enough additional story helps to differentiate your setting from others. Norrath has a rich lore and good story even though it is based on common tropes, and above all I think it does not FEEL like it is just a copy. The only argument Im trying to make is that so far in Pantheon a lot is copy-pasted from EQ. Its still early in the game, and who knows how itll end up at release.

Originally Posted by Uuruk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Same, I heard green was coming right after discord

I asked this question in a thread and got an official response; basically green will not happen until the entire code base is at a state that the devs would call complete and accurate to representing the classic live experience. So really were years off, just like with Pantheon lol.

[Muggens]

Originally Posted by rekreant [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

True, which was all derived from Tolkien.

JRR Tolkien was cool and all that but he did not invent fantasy

[rekreant]

Originally Posted by Muggens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

JRR Tolkien was cool and all that but he did not invent fantasy

Who has written and sold more fantasy than Tolkien? He may not have invented it, but you have to admit he refined and perfected it.

[fadetree]

Mmm, I don't think Everquest was great solely because it was innovative. At first that had a lot of impact, but I think a lot of what happened later was because of the difficulty. By 'difficulty' I mean the harsh death penalty, other time sinks, the need to group up, and the LONG grind to max level.
I have no idea what Pantheon will be like. There's a good chance it will fail, but that could be said about any new mmo. I think Pantheon will capture a certain niche market and if they can make that work financially then they will do fine. I certainly plan on playing it.

[Champion_Standing]

You could get a 4 year degree, get married, have kids and they'll be in middle school before Pantheon comes out.

[Muggens]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could get a 4 year degree, get married, have kids and they'll be in middle school before Pantheon comes out.

Some posters in here could even see their first rl naked woman IF focus shifted abit from pantheon