Raid Rule Madness - Page 6

Samoht · #51 08-28-2014, 11:11 AM

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The same raid force cannot track with more than two trackers. When FE/IB raided together, they had to abide by those same rules. Taken and BDA became one raid force when BDA jumped on Taken's Nagafen. BDA and Taken killed that dragon together. It's not difficult to understand.

It's not difficult to understand that you're just being difficult. You're clearly whining because you perceive all pixels as being the exclusive property of TMO. It's not true, though, and sometimes people are just willing to help:

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helping to kill a naggy is not against the rules. that's what TMO has been doing wrong all along here. try to help other players for once instead of indiscriminately shitting all over them.

This is still applicable.

No rules were broken.

Godefroi · #52 08-28-2014, 11:17 AM

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since TMO gets their kicks from denying loot to anyone but themselves, this is a win for them since the loot was destroyed. That is why they aren't petitioning. That is why umbrella isn't harassing the GMs on facebook or Skype to change the ruling.

This dude Unbrella stalked the GMs for 2 months after the FFA Naggy incident to get a new ruling. Sirken had already ruled that there was no raid interference and everyone went about their business till 2 months later Unbrella got Derubael to re-evaluate the situation. For those not in the know, Nagafen was engaged by Taken and was being killed - they had Naggy down to 20% and had 30 people engaged. They were in no danger of wiping, but a few BDA people got on the encounter log at the end. There was no collusion between Taken and BDA on the kill and BDA received no compensation whatsoever. Since both BDA and Taken had trackers present before the mob popped, however, TMO said there was a violation and said they were denied a dragon somehow. SO they petitioned to get Sirken's ruling overturned. TMO wanted a dragon from Taken and BDA. BDA offered to not go for the next FFA Naggy.

Somehow, thru litigation, BDA got suspended from their next rotated class R Naggy (ridiculous). TMO didn't get a dragon, Taken kept the loot. Mind you, there was no fraps submitted to prove anything. TMO says they somehow didn't have fraps of this incident (not likely, big fat liars) and the other guilds thought the incident was behind them since sirken had already ruled no violation so they didn't keep their fraps.

tldr, Unbrella = scum of the earth. BDA loses a rotated class R dragon for a ffa "violation".

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chief · #53 08-28-2014, 11:17 AM

Actually helping to kill any raid mob is against the rules if you guys have more then allocated trackers in zone.

Godefroi · #54 08-28-2014, 11:19 AM

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Locust · #55 08-28-2014, 11:19 AM

i'll let you guys finish about bda and naggy

but..

do you remember when taken killed severilous without fte and the GMs didn't care?

do you remember when catherin rubbed it in our faces?

do you remember when we played by the rules and got burned?

do you remember when your guild got suspended for breaking the rules?

do you remember when taken didn't?

Samoht · #56 08-28-2014, 11:20 AM

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Actually helping to kill any raid mob is against the rules if you guys have more then allocated trackers in zone.

only when TMO does this:

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Hitpoint · #57 08-28-2014, 11:23 AM

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No rules were broken.

Sounds like something to take up with the GMs. I wouldn't bother though. Logic and reasoning should suffice. One raid force killed a mob using more than two trackers. There's no way to argue anything else. One naggy is not a harsh punishment. It's probably best to leave it alone.

Samoht · #58 08-28-2014, 11:25 AM

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Logic and reasoning should suffice.

logic would say that you'd concede the point because you have no proof that taken was wiping, but you seem to have thrown logic out the window, haven't you?

Hitpoint · #59 08-28-2014, 11:26 AM

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do you remember when taken didn't?

Never forget

Hitpoint · #60 08-28-2014, 11:28 AM

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logic would say that you'd concede the point because you have no proof that taken was wiping, but you seem to have thrown logic out the window, haven't you?

Irrelevant again. It doesn't and never did matter whether taken was wiping. Did or didn't bad help them kill naggy?