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2) If Cleric healing is inefficient, whose healing is efficient? Who should heal the group instead? ITT: good players massively overthinking the Cleric class You're there to heal, bros. You have other tools in the toolbox to be sure. And Cleric lulls are very legit and powerful. But the class isn't built around them. I mean, I suppose you can make an argument for it if you have a very niche playstyle built around dungeon crawling in duos/trios. But I think every other grouping/raiding Cleric is better off maxing their mana pool, and carrying around a bag of +CHA gear (which is plentiful and cheap) for the rare occasions they need it. Groups and raids in EQ have probably wiped about 1000x more often because a Cleric ran OOM than because the Cleric puller got a crit lull resist at an inopportune moment. "Group LF Cleric to pull for us instead of healing," said no one ever. | |||
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Mana free,and allows the enchanter to handle problems as they happen. | |||
Last edited by PatChapp; 01-29-2023 at 09:11 PM..
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Also let's be honest, assuming two players of reasonable intelligence and experience, you can basically do whatever the hell you want with Ench/Cleric anyway. You're not exactly hurting for efficiency. | |||
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nah the cleric pulls in that duo, sorry you dont got hope that helped
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"Need" is a highly subjective word for a class that most of the time heals, buffs, and rezzes people.
Also for what it's worth, any competent puller (including ench's) will fight the cleric tooth and nail to let them pull for the group. It's an all-eggs-in-one-basket situation but more than that trying to reframe the team dynamic. In P99 most people are pretty locked in their ways...just let them do it the way they want to do it. If you have an unique small group thinking outside the box then sure, figure out any other system and have fun. | ||
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If you're pulling on a Cleric specifically to eat a roomful of HTs with DA, again, why do you need high CHA? You might as well pull with a nuke in that case.
There are vanishingly few scenarios I can think of in EQ where the Cleric should be the one in the group/duo doing something risky that might get them killed instead of another party member. This should be obvious and require no explanation. So the only situation in which a Cleric should be pulling are those which are relatively low risk to begin with. Which means pumping CHA is more a matter of convenience than survival. | ||
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I'm mostly with you Vexenu. I know a cleric can pull if he has to. I usually don't want him doing that. We're on a server where a wipe = forfeiting a camp; maintaining presence matters. I don't want my rezzer unnecessarily risking himself in normal gameplay. Of course some scenarios fall outside that general rule of thumb. Chaining low-risk blue exp fodder or in an area with no competition, or pushing the envelope where a death means a wipe regardless due to fast spawns or lack of safe areas, then sure, have at it. Cleric pulling someplace like chardok royals is fair game on that account.
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