TMO resort to hacking in VP

[Godefroi]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After Aiaus' first rez, he didn't really need to be there. In fact I told him to log out so we'd have another backup cleric, something he could have easily done right then without any trickery. But he insisted on staying there and irritating you guys because he hadn't really gotten to play yet.

I'm not excusing his behavior. I have exemptions on all 7 of my accounts and have never employed this tactic once. I think his exemptions should be removed and the staff should send a clear message that exemptions are not to be used for dodging trains in VP. I think we should crack down on similar exploits at the same time too, like the bard hide exploit. That shit is ridiculous.

However, to claim that this bullshit is what kept us up in VP is ignoring reality and blatant misinformation. We had Marley alive before Aiaus ever started doing this and we had a bunch of people camped out taking naps that we could have woken. To claim that you guys have never employed this tactic is even more ludicrous, though.

Needs...........to........save..........face...... ..!

More pills, more deflection lol

You're trying hard pat but what is done is done amiguito

[Treats]

Originally Posted by Yun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

UNINTENIONAL USE: The difference here is that there is no way our clerics can avoid the bug with IP exemption. They're just trying to /q out to survive, which is a regular practice. They're not purposely breaking the rules. It's an unintended side effect of trying to play the game.

There is no Unintentional use of this.

This is what happens when you DA and /q:

If the PC that DA's and /q's is on any mobs hate list THEY WILL NOT EXIT THE GAME until either they are dead or the NPC with them on the hate list is dead.

The only way to circumvent this is by abusing the IP exemption to kick you.

It does not matter if it takes you 2 seconds or 25 seconds to do it, it's the same fucking thing.

FE claiming they have never abused this is simply laughable, it's a stupid fucking thread.

[RipinpeaceTMO2013]

and you made a stupid fucking post

[xmonkx]

Originally Posted by Godefroi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Needs...........to........save..........face...... ..!

More pills, more deflection lol

You're trying hard pat but what is done is done amiguito

Nagach. Weve spoke about this matter already and its safe to say me and you are on better terms then some others. For one, I didnt even know this was going on up there. For two lets not beat around the bush. The night before when I was training Nexona I would honestly say half your guild give or take 1-3 people would poof instantly without LD message. I already know its gonna be prove this prove that. Honestly I dont give a fuck. I have no reason to lie. Ive already spoken to many of my friends in FE and told them about some of your guild members POOFING once this thread popped up. Yah you told me to tell you who poofs next time in front of me while im training. Ill get you the names. But sitting here bitching about something your guild also does to avoid trains is the pot calling the kettle black.

[RipinpeaceTMO2013]

Originally Posted by xmonkx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have no reason to lie.

when people make sure to say this, 9 out of 10 times it is a lie.

[quido]

I actually have legitimate use for all of my exemptions considering I play from Sloan's house sometimes, he might play from here sometime, and I have other random people that play on the same connection from time to time too.

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by xmonkx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nagach. Weve spoke about this matter already and its safe to say me and you are on better terms then some others. For one, I didnt even know this was going on up there. For two lets not beat around the bush. The night before when I was training Nexona I would honestly say half your guild give or take 1-3 people would poof instantly without LD message. I already know its gonna be prove this prove that. Honestly I dont give a fuck. I have no reason to lie. Ive already spoken to many of my friends in FE and told them about some of your guild members POOFING once this thread popped up. Yah you told me to tell you who poofs next time in front of me while im training. Ill get you the names. But sitting here bitching about something your guild also does to avoid trains is the pot calling the kettle black.

Sorry Sericx, this is a lie.

This cleric is using an EXPLOIT to GRIEF A RAID. I really could give two shits if people use this to fast switch characters or whatnot, but GRIEFING A RAID is a very different story.

The first one or two times I saw him do it, I didnt say anything. There is room for leniency in most cases. After he continued to do this for hours and hours, however, there was a major problem. You see, this prevented us from being able to pull Xygoz for over 2 hours because our already low numbers had to stay up there to make sure he did not res your train team on the ledge, whom we killed straight up and held down WITHOUT using any exploit.

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We had Marley alive before Aiaus ever started doing this and we had a bunch of people camped out taking naps that we could have woken. To claim that you guys have never employed this tactic is even more ludicrous, though.

1. Marley was camped out with res effects. The second Marley logged on, we killed him. We killed him 5 more times as Snackromancer and others kept trying to res him below the ledge. The ONLY reason you guys were able to delay us over 2 hours in the middle of the night is because of this cleric, period - everyone trainer from TMO was dead.

2. We have never employed this tactic to grief a raid, period. As far as if individuals have used /q with exemptions to get out quickly, I am sure there is someone in every guild who has. Be a freedom fighter and petition them.

[quido]

I'm sure it felt like hours, but it was really a much shorter period of time (for 20 or 30 min up until trak spawned) that he did this.

I saw your non-FD classes employ this very same tactic (though 3-5 seconds slower than Aiaus) when you came to VP after the recent repops. So don't give me that crap!

inb4 prove it

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[quido]

prove that he did it more than a couple times for a few minutes - surely you would fraps all his offenses, yes?

I think you guys are just trying to pass the buck for being slow on this one.