Best Shaman Race?

[Ezalor]

oh look another shaman race thread

[serjordanmormont]

Originally Posted by Ezalor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh look another shaman race thread

So I'm guessing your vote is troll? #dadjokes

[Kelor]

One clicky worth mentioning is the JB breastplate, which gives AC and DS. I hear the AC bonus for Iksar is only 40 - 45 and that gives 18 and 3 Damage Shield.

[blondeattk]

`This begs to question why you haven't rooted, or had your pet tank. `

because your tanking a lvl 50+ summoning mob.....soloing high lvl named mobs is wot 60 shms do. (post torpor)

...troll is my answer.....until velious, then id say ogre or iksar.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by blondeattk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

`This begs to question why you haven't rooted, or had your pet tank. `

because your tanking a lvl 50+ summoning mob.....soloing high lvl named mobs is wot 60 shms do. (post torpor)

...troll is my answer.....until velious, then id say ogre or iksar.

Why not kite until slowed?

Edit: And before you respond with something retarded, remember that summoning mobs don't summon until they're at 96% health. So don't damage the mob before you slow it. Not a terribly difficult strat.

[iruinedyourday]

ah man so bummed I didnt get onto this thread at page 1

The correct answer: Ogre

Why?: So you can give them inferiority complexes to everyone else.

And then?: a barb is able to run out of solB with a small train, past you while you are stuck in the hallway and die.

and after that?: 4 years later you get an AoN and you are finally the best race for a shaman.

Except: on a CR in SolB you get stuck and die again, but you dont care cus you're 60 and have been for 4 years.

the result?: you play from the library because 4 years of P99 has caused you to miss out on life and your family had left you long ago.

Ogre, to make people who didn't roll ogre feel bad.

[iruinedyourday]

Truth be told, ogre is the best, if you can get your hands on a AoN or Dark elf mask..

I have now played a barb & a Ogre to 60.. these are my thoughts.

Barb PRO:
-Faction, on blue is great, because you can recharge items easily in EC/WC where you can make this your 'hub'.. Im more efficent because of this (can ogre get faction to merchant out there? if so then this is moot point)
- Leveling is easier on a barb, you get an Xp bonus, and you dont get stuck and die in every hallway, its seriously an issue for an ogre.
CONS
-have to go to halas to get spells
-feel like you have a small penis cus evryone tells you how big the ogre's are.

Ogre PRO:
-Frontal stun, yea at 60+ its valuble, but pre60 it isnt. you dont face tank really, perhaps the argument that you can sit and JBB spam on slowed mobs when farming stuff can be made, but you shouldnt be farming stuff till 60 and should just be getting XP and 60.
CONS
-Size makes leveling a pain, you will get stuck in hallways on CR's and are less efficent cus you cant just RUN IN HELLA FAST and snipe a corpse or something the way a barb can, you gotta get in, shrink, etc.
-You will get killed trying to buy spells in grob, cus people that made vannila EQ loved making people cry back in 1999 by making NPC's that one shotthem at level 2 for lol's

A best in slot, lvl 60 ogre shaman, will always have something the barb doesnt have. But all in all, the stuff you do inbetween face tanking, and the times face tanking frontal stun immunity actually saves your life.. Results in a net win for the barbarian, as the 'more efficent race to play'

Can someone tell me if ogre can merchant in freeport?

I do belive that overall, my time was spent making ganes MORE as the barbarian, than it was as the ogre, because 90% of the stuff you do, is moving around, merchanting, banking, etc while 10% of it is actaully face tanking. Meaning that 90% of your time is made easier as a barbarian than as a shaman.

In otherwords, if you are min maxing, trying to be the most efficent everquester, its more efficent IMO to make 90% of your time more efficent than to choose to make 10% of it.

But thats MY opinion, and I love both of my characters.

And I am pretty hard core, and still dont see myself getting an AoN on blue or red in any forseeable future.

maybe well have an event and ill get a guise tho please for the love of god. Id prob go with my ogre, in that case.. altho, having faction on good cities, AND bad cities, is pretty min max too... so shit, i dont know!

EQ.. there is no Right choice, there are a series of bad choices, that start with you logging in.

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Tl;Dr Ogers have larger penises on average.

[Sajan]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

-Size makes leveling a pain, you will get stuck in hallways on CR's and are less efficent cus you cant just RUN IN HELLA FAST and snipe a corpse or something the way a barb can, you gotta get in, shrink, etc.

If you can't take the couple of seconds to memorize, then cast Shrink then the Ogre or Troll is not for you [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do belive that overall, my time was spent making ganes MORE as the barbarian, than it was as the ogre, because 90% of the stuff you do, is moving around, merchanting, banking, etc while 10% of it is actaully face tanking. Meaning that 90% of your time is made easier as a barbarian than as a shaman.

In otherwords, if you are min maxing, trying to be the most efficent everquester, its more efficent IMO to make 90% of your time more efficent than to choose to make 10% of it.

I play Barbarian because of this quote right here, I hate fatty models, and I enjoy leveling up using the Barbarian Spiritist's Hammer and Jaundiced Bone Bracer. The time saved by having faction in most areas is pretty significant, especially if you're new to the server and you're trying to make as much money as possible while leveling up by visiting merchants and the bank frequently. If you have all day to play, this is less of an issue. However, if you play casually, say a couple of hours at a time here and there, the Barbarian would be a lot more time efficient.

It has been stated before, Shamans are extremely powerful so no matter what race you choose you really can't go wrong. Personally, I would take the regen as a racial over frontal stun immunity if I had to make a choice between the two.

[Erica]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do belive that overall, my time was spent making ganes MORE as the barbarian, than it was as the ogre, because 90% of the stuff you do, is moving around, merchanting, banking, etc while 10% of it is actaully face tanking. Meaning that 90% of your time is made easier as a barbarian than as a shaman.

In otherwords, if you are min maxing, trying to be the most efficent everquester, its more efficent IMO to make 90% of your time more efficent than to choose to make 10% of it.

I am just the opposite. I spend about 90% of my time fighting merbs on my sham and 10% alchemy/banking etc. I mess around more on my bard and wizard. Frontal stun immunity is amazing imo, but of course any race can make a good shaman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] If only bards could be ogres...I'd be invincible!

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tl;Dr Ogers have larger penises on average.

And/or Larger boobs on average too.

[Kelor]

Does Iksar get anything like JB breastplate clicky in Velious? something that wont stack with Bramblecoat.