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Old 06-24-2014, 04:04 PM
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what is this reddit day z? how many cooks do we need in this kitchen.

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Old 06-24-2014, 04:06 PM
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Explain to me why you need to con people you are healing.

If you're healing them, they are likely in your group. If they are in your group, they likely range between +/- 5 levels from your level. If they range +/- 5 levels then their HP relative to yours will be pretty similar. The main difference being gear and class. So knowing their class /who and inspecting them, are far better avenues to assess what amount of healing is necessary.

Or... You could just figure out class/level of everyone when joining the group then spend a few minutes feeling out their HP pools (Or just inspect them and see what kind of gear they have).

I really fail to understand the need for con being listed in your target window.
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:10 PM
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I recently joined the server, 3 months ago. While I understand the no 2 boxing, making it close to classic EQ. Butwhy remove something we had and that was working great for everyone?

As a cleric I cycle a lot through targets. Con color on the box helped a lot. Now I have to add hitting "C" to my cycling and keep healing people. Its pretty much like trading your cable connection and going back to 14k modem for "Classic".

A stupid change to "classic" that didnt need to be in the game at this point. Bring back the Con color box please <3 Its not game breaking, its not a threat to socialization, but its clearly a threat to enjoyment factor. Less enjoyment = less people in the community.
rofl yeh if i cant see color of con in target window i quit too!!
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:26 PM
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Explain to me why you need to con people you are healing.

If you're healing them, they are likely in your group. If they are in your group, they likely range between +/- 5 levels from your level. If they range +/- 5 levels then their HP relative to yours will be pretty similar. The main difference being gear and class. So knowing their class /who and inspecting them, are far better avenues to assess what amount of healing is necessary.

Or... You could just figure out class/level of everyone when joining the group then spend a few minutes feeling out their HP pools (Or just inspect them and see what kind of gear they have).
So Im assuming you don't heal people out of your group and you probably try to click your target and keep missing the one you really wanna get? :P

Since we not all 60 here, con is important to see if you healing a green pet or blue/red pet. Why heal a pet? If I know the chanter is next on aggro list, yes I will heal the red pet offtanking a mob ->protecting my chanter. If its green pet, I move to healing the chanter right away cause dmg will come in.

When you get lom, you wanna heal a lightblue target or a red one? Lets say you raid in PoH with some lowbies (like me), as a new player in the community and a cleric, I don't get to spend a few minutes "feeling out" their HP pools. I have to heal HERE AND NOW and be on the ball. So I choose my targets. Triage sucks but its an important part of keeping the core of a raid alive.

So con and cycling can make the difference between someone playing a cleric and someone who is a cleric.


<3 Bring back the con colored box~!
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:32 PM
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So Im assuming you don't heal people out of your group and you probably try to click your target and keep missing the one you really wanna get? :P

Since we not all 60 here, con is important to see if you healing a green pet or blue/red pet. Why heal a pet? If I know the chanter is next on aggro list, yes I will heal the red pet offtanking a mob ->protecting my chanter. If its green pet, I move to healing the chanter right away cause dmg will come in.

When you get lom, you wanna heal a lightblue target or a red one? Lets say you raid in PoH with some lowbies (like me), as a new player in the community and a cleric, I don't get to spend a few minutes "feeling out" their HP pools. I have to heal HERE AND NOW and be on the ball. So I choose my targets. Triage sucks but its an important part of keeping the core of a raid alive.

So con and cycling can make the difference between someone playing a cleric and someone who is a cleric.


<3 Bring back the con colored box~!
Lol guess Dald's 2 main toons being a druid and cleric he doesn't know what he's talking about.......Or he does and you just giving stupid excuses as to why you need con's in target window. If your have green pets on your raids then someone else is doing something wrong.
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:36 PM
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Healing a pet sounds like a horrible idea...

If the mob doesn't summon, root it, save your mana healing pets and chanters.

If it does summon, get a knight or ranger to aggro it off enchanters (that's kind of their only role on a raid/in a group). Alternatively, use stuns to pull aggro/mitigate damage as a cleric since you can self heal and tank until said enchanter locks the mob down.

Every raid has downtime and you are often medding. Run up to someone, inspect them by right clicking (which may even con them for you) and check out what kind of gear they have. You'll figure out really quick who gets a remedy and who gets a complete heal.

And yes, I play 2 priests. I heal often in raids and occasionally if I group. I never found myself needing a con color indicator. I understand the need to heal here and now, but EQ really isn't a fast paced game. ESPECIALLY P99. You have time before the raid to figure out classes levels and gear quality of those you're raiding with, and if someone new or late arrives you can figure that stuff out in short order. Otherwise just Remedy til the cows come home.
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:37 PM
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Lol guess Dald's 2 main toons being a druid and cleric he doesn't know what he's talking about.......
Nah, he just likes trolling people about the classic ui

I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that the game would be more fun played with it.
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:40 PM
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Is hitting the "C" key really all that tedious?

Just be glad you all have your new fancy UIs with percentages and multiple hotbars and medding without being blind.

One day, we will get cleansed of these horrible things that make players think they are better than classic. And all will be right in the world. Praise classic UI.

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is there any way to use this ui??? This is what it looked like during my first adventure into norrath as a halfling druid and even though duxa's cleans the ui up I still just want that little stone interface.
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:42 PM
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Nah, he just likes trolling people about the classic ui

I don't see how anyone can seriously argue that the game would be more fun played with it.
Not fact of game being more fun. Fact of it being more classic. They already took away compass, con colors and other things that are help people for the sake of classic. Why would they not include classic UI.
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:44 PM
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Then there is an error in the games mechanics, as I distinctly recall getting XP from a few greens throughout my time here.

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That's a far cry from what op was saying. That's like saying "Oh you thought target rings made click targeting simpler? How about we put cats on the moon.

I think it was a pointless thing to remove tbh; as long as we're using these updated ui the game will never feel classic.
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