sk starting points

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had a dorm-mate with aspergers in college; sometimes he'd argue about something easily verifiable like the date something happened, and when pressed on it, he'd just continue to deny, and start laughing nervously, continuing to deny something plainly evident, like on some level he knew he was wrong but just couldn't bring his brain wiring to admit it.

If it is easy to verify, please show me how many kills per hour you can get at the camps you believe to be most popular.

Also, please show us why you think everybody is constantly playing in these high volume areas, when even Ripqozko admits places like the Hole are fairly empty.

If you were correct, you should be seeing the Hole with a lot more people at all times of day.

I have already admitted to being wrong about various things multiple times in this thread. Other posters (including yourself) resort to trolling instead when they are confronted with the possibility of being wrong. Perhaps you are the one who cannot admit they are wrong, even when it is easily verifiable?

[Troxx]

Ok so now that we have established that
-20 str gave 4.3% more dps
-that 4.3% is significant (about the same as 9% more worn haste which most would give a lot for)
-that math is math

Goalposts have been shifted …

And now we’re saying that more dps is not relevant because you’re gonna run out of mobs anyways?

And if you ran out of mobs how is 20int doing anything at all for you??

If anything it weakens the argument for intelligence. If you’re out of mobs sitting and waiting on respawns - you’re never using that extra 30-100 mana from having a slightly larger pool … …

But please carry on!




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[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I provided what is mostly bis from reality where DE needs the sta in order to even think about getting it capped, even your big ass sk can't cap without pe. Then you don't get to have avatar. You just ignore everything that doesn't help your narrative even with my proof.

I can also show a (much cheaper) Magelo where INT is capped before STR or STA. That doesn't change the reality of statistical distribution of stats across gear. It is still a fact that STA and STR is more common in SK gear on P99, even if you can put nothing but INT gear on an SK. Said INT gear will be inferior for an SK, but it is a valid gear combination.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can also show a (much cheaper) Magelo where INT is capped before STR or STA. That doesn't change the reality of statistical distribution of stats across gear. It is still a fact that STA and STR is more common in SK gear on P99, even if you can put nothing but INT gear on an SK. Said INT gear will be inferior for an SK.

This isn't random shit I have on and I don't cap, this is the legit path most will go, are you that much into "winning" a 24 year old Elf sim forum debate that you have to gaslight everything

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't random shit I have on and I don't cap, this is the legit path most will go, are you that much into "winning" a 24 year old Elf sim forum debate that you have to gaslight everything

You need to stop assuming I am gaslighting you. The statistical probabilities show that you are less likely to cap INT than STR or STA. It is really that simple. This doesn't mean the probability is zero, it just means you have a better chance of ending up with uncapped INT when organically acquiring gear. You ended up with the statistically less likely scenario, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Your character is awesome, and I am not trying to give you starting stat remorse. You are fine.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You need to stop assuming I am gaslighting you. The statistical probabilities show that you are less likely to cap INT than STR or STA. It is really that simple. This doesn't mean the probability is zero, it just means you have a better chance of ending up with uncapped INT when organically acquiring gear.

Your character is awesome, and I am not trying to give you starting stat remorse. You are fine.

As you say, this is fact this is what most strive to get, and I don't cap. If I was a dumbass and went int I'd be even more in a hole. Will I eventually cap? Sure but that's a long ass path to get this when your own ass character doesn't cap.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As you say, this is fact this is what most strive to get, and I don't cap. If I was a dumbass and went int I'd be even more in a hole. Will I eventually cap? Sure but that's a long ass path to get this when your own ass character doesn't cap.

You wouldn't be in a hole. Starting stats don't really matter, and you have great gear already. 21 HP is irrelevant in a raid. If you got down to 21 HP, your healer(s) messed up, or your puller messed up, or your raid messed up.

You aren't at full BiS yet, and you have multiple routes to max out your STA before full BiS. You are fine.

[Troxx]

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[Troxx]

Total posts on thread: 595
Total posts from DSM in thread: 212
# of people DSM has convinced: 0
# of people who disagree with DSM: unilateral consensus of active participants


Yikes.


Can we let this die now?

We are more or less unanimously in agreement and at an impasse convincing DSM of anything

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Total posts on thread: 595
Total posts from DSM in thread: 212
# of people DSM has convinced: 0
# of people who disagree with DSM: unilateral consensus of active participants


Yikes.


Can we let this die now?

We are more or less unanimously in agreement and at an impasse convincing DSM of anything

We can let it die at any time. You do not speak for everybody. It is silly to simply claim victory, when you cannot even provide evidence for your claims. Two posters agreed with me regarding INT on page 1 of this thread, using my same argument. Your trolling is trivial to expose.

People can compare your opinions to my actual evidence and make their own conclusions. You do not have to keep trolling due to a fear of being wrong.

Getting the correct information to the user is the important part, not who is right or wrong.

People can look at the evidence so far that INT is the best starting stat in the posts below:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=300

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=507

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=513

I encourage people to gather counter-evidence if they feel there is something I am missing.

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you actually believe this you would never post on these forums ever again.

Your bias is clearly showing. Your opinion of me is irrelevant. If you think I am wrong, prove it! You do not simply get to say "I am right and you are wrong because some other posters agree with me". That is an argumentum ad populum fallacy.