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Old 08-03-2012, 09:55 AM
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The biggest problem is the player base. The same people who couldn't get past level 40 with exp bonus are going to somehow grind out 51-60? How will melees level? There aren't druid boxes so getting kunark groups going will be far more cumbersome. I have a healthy amount of skepticism that there will be any noticeable level 55+ pop outside of nihilum. Time will tell I guess let's hope I'm wrong and that groups are abundant and the exp flows.
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Old 08-03-2012, 10:25 AM
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I disagree with the OP in general.

There are people who play this server for many reasons and I want to identify them because it's important to understand the population consists of a variety of player types. Some players view PVE as the primary purpose of playing, with PVP as a bonus. Some players only care about PVP. It is important to recognize that both player types need to be considered.

YT- Enough people seem to want it, and it seems to have a minimal impact on the player experience while encouraging PVP. I would expect to see it put in eventually.

Kunark Release- Great time to release a expansion. This server came with the promise of an "accurate" timeline. Since kunark was due a few months ago this is great news to hear it's not far from it's original timeline. There are countless reasons why releasing the expansions in the proper timeframe is great. This release is not based on a 10-15 population increase. There is no realistic reason to hold off kunark.

Experience Rates- Current rates enable low levels to be gained faster, while later levels are "classic". This still requires the "PVP only" players to grind if they want to PVP at max level. Unless you make it all around a increase, it won't help the players who quit because they could not compete with the max level guilds. Although I beleive the scaling exp bonus is a good idea, I don't think it is a "fix" for the PVP only players who left. If a player left because he couldnt get a group/guild to 50 in classic, there is no way he will get a group/guild to 60 in kunark. 60 is downright brutal. Players have to know this when coming here.

I do believe most people who constantly put their opinions on these forums do so because they think it would make the server better. But they don't account for all the types of players. This is the real flaw, not considereing that the server has players who don't view the perfect PVP world the same way you do.
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Old 08-03-2012, 10:40 AM
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I disagree with the OP in general.

There are people who play this server for many reasons and I want to identify them because it's important to understand the population consists of a variety of player types. Some players view PVE as the primary purpose of playing, with PVP as a bonus. Some players only care about PVP. It is important to recognize that both player types need to be considered.
Good post.

I posted something similar here and was just about to post it again on the red forums.

One persons view of EQ pvp may not be the same as anothers. There is no right way to play. People want to transform the game into something its not. Its not "a pvp game," its a pve game with pvp. Enjoy both, or don't. Play it how you want. But this fantasy that people who pve are "bad for the server" in EVERQUEST, is the epitome of idiocy.
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Old 08-03-2012, 10:34 AM
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If a fraction of the population thats come through red, the 100s of players that lurk the forums, and those still active come together for kunark, it will easily be 150-200 players not including the new crowd it draws in.

Question is, how many of them are going to come back just to quit because its still classic EQ pvp, and not some other game they'd like to imagine it being.
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:49 AM
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Get this Zuranthawhatever guy out of here.

Anyways, who is going to be hosting all these Seb groups and porting everyone from KC to EJ every time they need it?

You think solo'ing your melee to 40 is tough.... try 51+.
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Old 08-03-2012, 12:48 PM
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If they can't see Kunark being the worst possible thing for this server right now, it's already doomed.

If they can't see one guild trolling them into releasing content just for them, it's already doomed.

If you can't see the amount of time and effort it will take to even FIND engaging PVP with Kunark, you're fucked.

Nilbog and team trolled soo hard.
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Old 08-03-2012, 12:50 PM
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If they can't see Kunark being the worst possible thing for this server right now, it's already doomed.

If they can't see one guild trolling them into releasing content just for them, it's already doomed.

If you can't see the amount of time and effort it will take to even FIND engaging PVP with Kunark, you're fucked.

Nilbog and team trolled soo hard.

wow the rage of x-holobad is INTENSE up in here. Their worse nightmare is comming true, griefed off the last legit classic red EQ server this world will ever see, and said server continues to THRIVE while they are exiled to some lame shitbox in the desert.

So Classic.
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Old 08-03-2012, 02:24 PM
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If they can't see Kunark being the worst possible thing for this server right now, it's already doomed.

If they can't see one guild trolling them into releasing content just for them, it's already doomed.

If you can't see the amount of time and effort it will take to even FIND engaging PVP with Kunark, you're fucked.

Nilbog and team trolled soo hard.
oddly everyone (not just nilly) who actually plays the server wants kunark. the only people opposed to kunark are ones that dont play so why should they listen to you?
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Old 08-03-2012, 02:46 PM
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oddly everyone (not just nilly) who actually plays the server wants kunark. the only people opposed to kunark are ones that dont play so why should they listen to you?
True, and it makes their agenda VERY clear.

Of course they lost the forum war, just like they lost in game.

Now they mad.
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Old 08-03-2012, 02:23 PM
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Get this Zuranthawhatever guy out of here.

Anyways, who is going to be hosting all these Seb groups and porting everyone from KC to EJ every time they need it?

You think solo'ing your melee to 40 is tough.... try 51+.
samwise will be porting all the pals around kunark.
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