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Old 05-04-2021, 06:37 PM
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mRNA vaccines, i.e. those from Pfizer and Moderna, work by giving your body instructions (that's the RNA part) to make COVID spike proteins. The CDC has a nice picture here on page 5. The theory was that the immune system could learn to destroy COVID without actually injecting a so-called live virus. What the article in question is claiming is that it does not matter, the spike protein itself causes pulmonary trauma even if there is no actual virus inside it: that's the "proving that the spike protein alone was enough to cause disease." part. If spike proteins cause disease, and mRNA vaccines cause spike proteins, it automatically follows that mRNA vaccines cause disease. Naturally the scientists at the Salk institute don't draw the obvious conclusion because they want to keep their $billions in funding.

If you have any reason why this logic is incorrect, I'd love to hear it. Unlike most people, I actually change my mind and admit it when I am wrong.
Are you actually this clueless or are you just trolling on purpose? I’m assuming the latter but who knows. The vaccines make it more difficult for the spike protein to bind into your cells. They don’t make spike proteins flood your system. You’re a moron
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Old 05-04-2021, 12:46 PM
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No it teaches them how to identify the spike proteins. It doesn't make you a spike protein factory.
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Old 05-04-2021, 12:52 PM
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No it teaches them how to identify the spike proteins. It doesn't make you a spike protein factory.
Yes, it does. That is exactly what it does. https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topi...vid_19_vaccine

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Unlike a traditional vaccine that uses inactivated, dead, or portions of actual virus to spur an immune response, mRNA delivers a message to your body’s cells via a lipid nanoparticle envelope that instructs the cells to generate the spike protein found on the surface of a coronavirus that initiates infection. Instructing cells to generate the spike protein spurs an immune response, including generation of antibodies specific to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.
But hey, you can't say they didn't warn you:

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The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine has not been approved or licensed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), but has been authorized for emergency use by FDA under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to prevent Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) for use in individuals 16 years of age and older. The emergency use of this product is only authorized for the duration of the declaration that circumstances exist justifying the authorization of emergency use of the medical product under Section 564(b)(1) of the FD&C Act unless the declaration is terminated or authorization revoked sooner.
Thanks Trump <3
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Old 05-04-2021, 01:05 PM
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Imagine if joe Rogan turns out to be right
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Old 05-04-2021, 04:59 PM
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Imagine if joe Rogan turns out to be right
Joe Rogan POTUS 2024 please
Who would be his running mate?
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Old 05-04-2021, 01:06 PM
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Remember when fox news tried to say that we should call it the "trump vaccine" because 4 companies were already producing it on their own when he "ordered" them to make it? You know, in his "honor" for letting the virus into the USA and letting it kill hundreds of thousands of people while he said it was a democratic hoax.
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Old 05-04-2021, 01:28 PM
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Remember when fox news tried to say that we should call it the "trump vaccine" because 4 companies were already producing it on their own when he "ordered" them to make it? You know, in his "honor" for letting the virus into the USA and letting it kill hundreds of thousands of people while he said it was a democratic hoax.
I realize this Trump bashing thing can get a bit addictive but the simple reality is that it no longer matters that Trump was shit. At this point it's about not poisoning our entire nation and collapsing into Mad Max.
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Old 05-04-2021, 01:47 PM
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All those people in india that are my age and body type just dying on the street or in hallways is alarming.
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Old 05-04-2021, 01:50 PM
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It's actually worse then you think...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyAovuUxro

The people that get vaccinated, their immune system is now permanently programed to make antibodies that will only detect the spike protein on covid19 in its current form. It doesn't give protection from the entire genetic make up of the viruses. So when the virus eventually mutates a change in the proteins in the spikes the people that were inoculated with the RNA vaccines will created those pre programed antibodies that will literally do nothing.
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Old 05-04-2021, 02:07 PM
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It's actually worse then you think...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyAovuUxro

The people that get vaccinated, their immune system is now permanently programed to make antibodies that will only detect the spike protein on covid19 in its current form. It doesn't give protection from the entire genetic make up of the viruses. So when the virus eventually mutates a change in the proteins in the spikes the people that were inoculated with the RNA vaccines will created those pre programed antibodies that will literally do nothing.
So you don't get the Flu vaccine every year for the same reason. *roll eyes
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