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Old 10-31-2019, 11:39 PM
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Why the attitude? A lot of people in this thread sound like they were part of the original discussion. Surely someone can at least point me to the discussion they're referring to?

Maybe the reason the developers haven't removed the XP penalty is because the proof is buried "somewhere" on the forums and just hasn't been brought to their attention.

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go on the page with tons of shit about classic, you'll find the master piece where he got the staff here to break a class back like it was broken bbefore
I don't understand this post
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Old 10-31-2019, 10:19 PM
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Because "Classic!" is a shibboleth that only the forums junkies slavishly adhere to. Management obviously conforms to some other metric; perhaps in this case, they're looking to slow down the high end of the Bell curve.

Nerfed quest xp. Not classic.
Variable spawn rates. Not classic.
No Meditate command. Not classic.
etc.

If something is classic but makes the game easier, assume its not in....
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Old 10-31-2019, 11:36 PM
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Lmao donkey
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Old 11-01-2019, 12:30 AM
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I searched Dolalin's post history and found that he referred to this post from 2002 stating that, prior to the change being discussed, pets took 50% XP if they did 50%+ damage: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/story.html?story=960

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In the old scheme, if a pet did more than half of the damage to a monster, it took half the experience reward. In the new scheme, pets take zero experience unless no player does damage.
Unless there is more, earlier information I didn't find, this is rather compelling proof that the 50% XP penalty was classic.
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Old 11-01-2019, 12:34 AM
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I searched Dolalin's post history and found that he referred to this post from 2002 stating that, prior to the change being discussed, pets took 50% XP if they did 50%+ damage: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/story.html?story=960



Unless there is more, earlier information I didn't find, this is rather compelling proof that the 50% XP penalty was classic.
yes its earlier was same thread that discussed the added pet to vendor.
And not compelling, cherry picking.
The very same source he used stated that it was 25% at some point earlier and he still went with the 50% for his evidence.

its being dishonnest. I wont bother going back through it, someone will i am sure. It wont matter, staff were decided to fuck mages up. so we will just wait january,.
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Old 11-01-2019, 12:54 AM
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The very same source he used stated that it was 25% at some point earlier and he still went with the 50% for his evidence.
I think you misunderstood the source.

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If you do less than half, your pet takes as little as 25% of the experience when it used to always take half.
This is plainly saying that a 25% XP penalty is a result of the 2002 change being discussed in the post, and that prior to the change, pets "always" took half XP. Not only does this say that the 50% penalty came before the 25% penalty - the use of "always" may imply that the 50% penalty existed for the entire history of Everquest prior to this post.
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Old 11-01-2019, 01:21 AM
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I think you misunderstood the source.



This is plainly saying that a 25% XP penalty is a result of the 2002 change being discussed in the post, and that prior to the change, pets "always" took half XP. Not only does this say that the 50% penalty came before the 25% penalty - the use of "always" may imply that the 50% penalty existed for the entire history of Everquest prior to this post.
wrong source we are talking of 1999 not sure what you guys are looking at
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Old 11-01-2019, 01:26 AM
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wrong source we are talking of 1999 not sure what you guys are looking at
I linked the source earlier in the thread: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/story.html?story=960

Do you have a different, earlier source?
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Old 11-01-2019, 12:38 AM
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mages are so rough, thats why they are 190 of them on right now
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Old 11-01-2019, 12:49 AM
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mages are so rough, thats why they are 190 of them on right now
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