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Old 10-25-2019, 04:10 AM
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Level difference makes a huge difference. If you think you can charm something one or two levels below you reliably “because it’s blue” you’re gonna have a real bad time
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Old 10-25-2019, 07:10 AM
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Level difference makes a huge difference. If you think you can charm something one or two levels below you reliably “because it’s blue” you’re gonna have a real bad time
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This is why charm is so brutal at level 12 but so crazy powerful at like 40+. The range of stuff you can exp on at low levels is so small that you have a hard time finding something that is worth exp but isn't too close to your level so that it is difficult to keep charmed.

That said, enchanters are totally able to charm for solo exp right at 12 even naked as the day they were born when you're using the right tactics. Use open space to your advantage, fight near a zone line, be willing to accept 1/2 exp or no exp for a kill if it seems like trying to get full exp is going to cost you more mana than it is worth, be patient. My two most recent enchanters, both untwinked (or nearly so) went to kerra isle before 16 iirc, and while it wasn't easy by any stretch, they managed to exp nicely in there even sometimes charming and killing evens and yellows.

Charming in groups isn't ideal until maybe 20+ since your animation is pretty similar in strength to a safe charm target at these levels, but once you're a little higher (you're high enough) you can charm a level 25 easily with tash and cha buff and maybe some cheap charisma gear, and it should outperform your animation probably. Again, make use of open space to keep you safe from charm breaks (make your pet guard away from where you're medding; don't let it sit right next to you).
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Old 10-25-2019, 07:34 AM
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Not only is your CHA low but if you are talking about lower guk that would explain it as well, you are lvl 35 charming mobs in their upper 20s low to mid 30s, you are gonna get charm breaks with the small amount of CHA you got at that level difference.
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Old 12-09-2019, 07:35 AM
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Guys, no nerf happened. Rogean has been mia for weeks.
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Old 12-09-2019, 07:59 AM
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Pets were indeed changed to have higher drops. They used to not drop any items you gave them at all. But nowadays charmed pets will always drop gear you gave them later when you kill them. This is great for giving your pets powerful proccing weapons or -mr gear because you can recover it when you're done using the pet! Hurrah!
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:50 AM
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Tecmos, so the OP was correct but not in the way they intended! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 12-09-2019, 01:13 PM
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Pets were indeed changed to have higher drops. They used to not drop any items you gave them at all. But nowadays charmed pets will always drop gear you gave them later when you kill them. This is great for giving your pets powerful proccing weapons or -mr gear because you can recover it when you're done using the pet! Hurrah!
Except when they are non-MR, so rogues can pickpocket it, while the pet will visually keep displaying the items they previously had.

Slightly annoying.
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Old 12-09-2019, 09:10 AM
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:46 PM
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In relation to level difference range.

At level 25 mob cons change for me when they used to be light blue /low "might be a risk" blues they changed to "can be dangerous " blues.

So I went to KFC in south karana and tried charming some Rooks "can be dangerous" and Harrier "Can be dangerous"

Rook level 20 - 22
Harrier level 24 - 26

So my charming did not go well charm/beguile both where breaking quickly due primarily to level difference.

Now at 28 when to many avocets are up I charm an even con (short mezz, tash, beguile) previously spotted other avocet (yellow con) pull near lake rathe and root /slow it and let my charmed pet whale on it. charm is going to break often but i can usually kill one avocet and zone out.
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Old 10-25-2019, 06:53 AM
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Yeah, it was mentioned a few times. I think all the points as to why the charms are breaking regularly have been clarified and it's unlikely due to any changes to game code.
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