Level 60 TMO Bard being bind camped by level 1 red players in West Freeport

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Lemons [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

noone listen to heartbrand, he is fat in real life. also one of those stars on the neck kinda guys, forgot the term? starts with a J ends with a RAT

Agatha pal do me a favor, if I ever get a star on my neck I want you personally be the one to put me out of my misery. Will you do that for me pal?

[Lemons]

ill march you to the camps myself sir.

[heartbrand]

Of course they're advantages, but my point is they are no where near as steep as you make them out to be and can be easily overcame with proper organization and easily obtainable items. This isn't end game velious with people rolling around with 100hp every slot items and primal weaps.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course they're advantages, but my point is they are no where near as steep as you make them out to be and can be easily overcame with proper organization and easily obtainable items. This isn't end game velious with people rolling around with 100hp every slot items and primal weaps.

Yeah, no one will quit because someone is repeatedly teabaggin their corpse with their fancy gear.

You talk as if those same things used to overcome your obvious advantages won't already be employed by the same people with obvious advantages.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, no one will quit because someone is repeatedly teabaggin their corpse with their fancy gear.

You talk as if those same things used to overcome your obvious advantages won't already be employed by the same people with obvious advantages.

Not sure if trolling at this point but ill make one last good will effort and be done with it as my coffee is near consumed. First off if a guild came over they'd have blue plat to obtain boxes with that could farm items in empty zones like Sebilis. They could buy resist gear etc off forums. Yes, you might have to actually PVP over tranix, the horror, and might lose some of those battles. Second, you'd be surprised how helpful people are to newbs on red. Yes the forums are AWFUL but in game is not like that with the exception of three to four people who can be ignored. Finally, yes, there would be some dirt naps along the way but you simply loot up and switch camps and presumably if you bring a crew well then there's always that strength in numbers thingamajig.

[Lemons]

when you mean proper organization, you mean adding 20-30 people to our roster right?

[xarzzardorn]

eq pvp is awful

[Splorf22]

here is my experience on red:

1. There are very few players. Usually there will be ~1 group 20-30.

2. Because of this there is no pvp at the lower levels; everyone is very nice to each other because really there is no reason to compete when there are 10x as many mobs as anyone could need.

3. If you do PVP, it will be against a Flowers twink with an OOR healing druid

4. Global OOC is a constant stream of retarded trash talking; basically RNF only constant and worse because it involves pvp deaths

5. High-level players are generally pretty willing to help out because they want more players.

No clue howthings change from 25->50+

[skorge]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

here is my experience on red:

1. There are very few players. Usually there will be ~1 group 20-30.

2. Because of this there is no pvp at the lower levels; everyone is very nice to each other because really there is no reason to compete when there are 10x as many mobs as anyone could need.

3. If you do PVP, it will be against a Flowers twink with an OOR healing druid

4. Global OOC is a constant stream of retarded trash talking; basically RNF only constant and worse because it involves pvp deaths

5. High-level players are generally pretty willing to help out because they want more players.

No clue howthings change from 25->50+

One of the things missing on Red is an economy - you can forget about trying to obtain higher-end items via bartering unless you are in the top guild, Nihilum...this is how it was 2 months ago when i quit Red. I am not sure if it has changed since I left, but this is how it was.

Nihilum, in general, would horde all the high-end loot and place it on the market for ridiculous amounts, and then when YOU try to sell items, such as a NoS, all they do is complain about how much x is (see Heartbrand's comment on page 2 about the locket of escape).

Heartbrand, and many of Nihilum are totally clueless on the value of items and think they can control/bully the entire market. For example, Him and several other Nihilum members told me I would never sell NoS's for what I was asking. Guess what, they were all sold a long time ago for the amount I wanted, an amount that I thought was fair. So, in a nutshell, if you don't mind playing on a server where the economy will be your enemy, then give Red a try.

[heartbrand]

I hooked you up the best I could, how is it treating you so far? The payoff on red is 46+