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Old 10-23-2011, 09:31 AM
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So, the new system is that the caster needs to do 50% or more experience to get full expiernce. If the caster does less then 50%, the caster still gets 50% experience, whether the caster does 0% or 49%?

Wouldn't this encourage AFK killing again? Or am I misunderstanding how this works? Couldn't a level 44 mage stick his pet on a spectre in Oasis for the night, getting 50% experience pn every kill while he sleeps, until a GM bounces him to log in? I hadn't seen AFK camping in well over a year... but doesn't this kind of make it relevant again?
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Old 10-23-2011, 09:35 AM
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=Wouldn't this encourage AFK killing again? Or am I misunderstanding how this works? Couldn't a level 44 mage stick his pet on a spectre in Oasis for the night=?

ummm I would think this would lead to the permanent deletion of that mages account. Is that the case when someone AFK xps?
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Old 10-23-2011, 09:45 AM
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I'm not a chanter or a low dps pet toon, but I don't really understand why pets should even take any experience at all. Didn't take all of this into account when they balanced classes? My guess is that they cut experience because they were afraid of exploits or bugs. In a similar way, developers will often cap stats and skills just in case a hacker figures out how to boost them to extremes.

(keep in mind that pets AUTO-defend - this makes developers anxious)

I don't think this would ever be a part of a single player game because in that kind of game hacking only influences YOU, not others. In MMOs, hacking (exploiting oversights or bugs) influences everyone.

For example, in single player games you can turn on cheats. In MMOs, you can't (GMs can).
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Old 10-23-2011, 09:57 AM
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this change wouldn't be so bad if pet taunt/agro actually worked.

i want to see a mage do over 50% nuke damage on a mob and not have that mob beating their ass into the ground
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Old 10-23-2011, 10:00 AM
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this change wouldn't be so bad if pet taunt/agro actually worked.

i want to see a mage do over 50% nuke damage on a mob and not have that mob beating their ass into the ground
2 blues left in 59... dammit I shoulda taken care of this earlier. Ohai earth pet...
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Old 10-23-2011, 10:03 AM
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yeah, that earth pet root is so reliable...

my mage is only 54 though. perhaps the next pet is better. haha
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Old 10-23-2011, 10:06 AM
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One more thing...

Even in the new system the pet takes 75% of the experience if you don't do any damage. What this shows is that even the new system is paranoid. Just not as much as the old one.

My guess is the new system fixed some exploits and the developers were confident.
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Old 10-23-2011, 10:07 AM
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this change wouldn't be so bad if pet taunt/agro actually worked.

i want to see a mage do over 50% nuke damage on a mob and not have that mob beating their ass into the ground
Thats a good point there
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Old 10-23-2011, 10:10 AM
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In a way, this is the same kind of thing that happened to hybrids. They gave them an experience penalty because they thought their soloing capabilities were too powerful. In a similar way, they thought that AUTO-defend pets are too powerful. Maybe not so much in terms of their stats, but in the many potential circumstances that one can 'dream' up. If you're paranoid, like a developer, you dream...

In both cases, there's a subjective feeling of dread. It's not concrete fact. This makes it shaky ground.

Same thing happens in real world matters. When concrete facts aren't available, we tend to invent goblins and ghosts and little hitlers. In the absence of true knowledge, our innermost fears come out.
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Old 10-23-2011, 10:21 AM
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This shouldn't affect charm exp I don't believe.
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