Originally Posted by unsunghero[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Props to Ana and whoever that dude is for acknowledging the issues, too bad their take is way off
Fascism? Quite a stretch unless you are someone who thinks anyone who votes right is Hitler. What the hell does fascism have to do with men problems? “I can’t get a girl, I don’t want to work, I don’t have any friends, all I want to do is play video games. Hey maybe we should become Nazi Getmany! Yea, Hitler made tackling all these problems his focus!”
The only thing I could see as unfairly authoritarian about men’s issue is lonely chronically single men being pro-life. I don’t have a problem with the pro-life part but a guy who’s never had sex telling a girl who is having sex “just close your legs you slut” is a bit disingenuous. Like does any of us really believe that if the roles were reversed and the guy could get any girl he wanted that he would still choose to be celibate to prevent pregnancy? Come on…
They acknowledge a lot of stuff like the lack of men in the workforce, high suicide rates and substance abuse, then Ana says the group most affected is actually black men not white men, and it only happens here and no other developed country
The issue with black men is you have a cultural lack of interest in both school or unglamorous jobs, IMO. And anyone getting free money from the gov’t for their entire life simply for existing like TANIF/welfare…yea is probably not going to be all that interested in working, even if that amount of money they get is crap
And doesn’t happen anywhere else? How about Japan? Think their reason for not wanting to participate in working and relationships is the same as poor black men here? Turns out different cultures are different holy crap
It’s many things, it doesn’t lead to fascism that is ridiculous. It’s being raised on porn to start. It’s a movement away from forming nuclear families. It’a the rise of autism in boys creating social awkwardness that too many refuse to battle and instead become hermits. Its an aggregate drop in test. It’s the fact that video games are better than they’ve ever been, certainly better than the stupid Mario brothers for the Nintendo that we had as kids. It’s whatever damage too much screen time is doing to people. That’s my 0.02 off the top of my head that I had to type up in a few mins before gym
But hey like I said at least they are acknowledging the issue
Boys need a tribal unit and military academy and a right or ritual ascension to manhood. Something like surviving the elements. And we need to let many of them die that don't. And the state needs to get its hands out of medicine. Welfare. Pain management. Euthanasia etc.
Originally Posted by magnetaress[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Boys need a tribal unit and military academy and a right or ritual ascension to manhood. Something like surviving the elements. And we need to let many of them die that don't. And the state needs to get its hands out of medicine. Welfare. Pain management. Euthanasia etc.
And then they need communal work and church.
Video games are a poor substitute.
The Left tend to want to change and eliminate "negative" human behavior and the Right tends to accept that it's a fight we cannot win and instead try to deflect that energy in a more productive way.
Young men are violent and filled with energy.
They always will be.
Trying to fight nature and evolution is a losing battle.
Try to give young men purpose and allow them an outlet to burn out that tense energy.
Telling them that they're bad and evil because of their nature only makes things worse.
"Toxic Masculinity" will ALWAYS be there. People might as well save themselves time and realize some things in nature are hard coded.
Originally Posted by Encroaching Death[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
The Left tend to want to change and eliminate "negative" human behavior and the Right tends to accept that it's a fight we cannot win and instead try to deflect that energy in a more productive way.
Young men are violent and filled with energy.
They always will be.
Trying to fight nature and evolution is a losing battle.
Try to give young men purpose and allow them an outlet to burn out that tense energy.
Telling them that they're bad and evil because of their nature only makes things worse.
"Toxic Masculinity" will ALWAYS be there. People might as well save themselves time and realize some things in nature are hard coded.
Listened to the whole thing, Ana had some decent takes about a general sense of lack of purpose contributing
I got a little disappointed with the guy Vaugh or whatever who’s input was mostly just buzzwords like misogynist, phobes, and especially “incels”. I’m like you’re the incel buddy, are you really calling people incels with that “No Girls Allowed” tangled bird’s nest on your face? No girl is kissing that, get a god damn beard trimmer. Having all the virtue in the world isn’t going to help if you don’t have basic hygiene
Agreed that obsessively trying to control "mans" nature is futile. We should give them something to aim for. Strive for tho. And reward those that survive.
01-13-2023, 10:38 PM
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