Project 1999 Naming Policy

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Muggens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just petitioned the character Dronestrikes, first time ive done so but I find it offensive and ugly and it makes me think of innocent people being murdered by nerds and losers with a gamepad.

Was it a druid? You know druids have a spell called http://wiki.project1999.com/Drones_of_Doom

[Muggens]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was it a druid? You know druids have a spell called http://wiki.project1999.com/Drones_of_Doom

So you mean it makes a good pun on words?

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Muggens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you mean it makes a good pun on words?

Just because the word "drone" has some evil connotation to you doesn't necessarily mean the word meant the same to him or others who read it.

I personally would think of the word as you do, but at the same time I can recognize the dual meaning behind it, the other being a play on the name of the druid spell, "Drones of Doom".

Do you think the designers created the spell name "Drones of Doom" intending it to remind people of drones used to bomb or attack people? I doubt it.

Personally I don't get upset over the name, but I can see how you might feel.

One time on EQ1 ages ago there was a guy named "Irishcarbomb" and I did not like this name, for the same reasons you don't like "Dronestrikes". I guess I am older, and less impressionable and even less offended by words so neither name phases me now.

I wouldn't be surprised if they rmeoved his name, then again I wouldn't be surprised if they did not.

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because the word "drone" has some evil connotation to you doesn't necessarily mean the word meant the same to him or others who read it.

I personally would think of the word as you do, but at the same time I can recognize the dual meaning behind it, the other being a play on the name of the druid spell, "Drones of Doom".

Do you think the designers created the spell name "Drones of Doom" intending it to remind people of drones used to bomb or attack people? I doubt it.

Personally I don't get upset over the name, but I can see how you might feel.

One time on EQ1 ages ago there was a guy named "Irishcarbomb" and I did not like this name, for the same reasons you don't like "Dronestrikes". I guess I am older, and less impressionable and even less offended by words so neither name phases me now.

I wouldn't be surprised if they rmeoved his name, then again I wouldn't be surprised if they did not.

Remember that it's an insect-based attack...that line of dots has attack messages about a 'swarm of insects'...so I've always thought the 'drones' reference was to bee drones, which are male bees. The designers might have thought that these were like warrior bees or whatever; what they actually do is lay around and try to have sex constantly. They don't even have stingers. Any comparison to human male behavior is coincidental.

[Muggens]

Yes Irishcarbomb would be the same thing, an offensive "name" especially to those who are Irish. Same with Dronestrikes, I guess that would be a reason to quit if you were a survivor. Since u seem more interested in being a kverulant Ill straighten it up for you: The word Dronestrike is a new word being used only these past years in relation to just that; bombing "targets" using drones controlled from afar in the safety of your gamepad. This is a dronestrike and there are no such things as other dronestrikes or uses of the word before.

The word drone in itself has no "evil connotation" to me, its a useful tool, just not for airstrikes.

[maskedmelon]

It is interesting how words can carry different meanings to people. Like in the US, it is not uncommon for little kids to shout "banzai!" When jumping into a pool or lake or something. Japanese people do use it as a cheer, but using it like that can be, well onjectionable? Most Americans don't even know, but many hundreds of Japanese including mothers holding their infants jumped from the Banzai cliffs at the invasion of Saipan.

Conversely, in Japan, the slang term for a Polaroid camera is bakachon kamera. Many people use it without knowing the meaning is somewhat disparaging to people of Korean ancestry (literally means a camera that even an idiot or chonseijin (Korean) can use).

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is interesting how words can carry different meanings to people. Like in the US, it is not uncommon for little kids to shout "banzai!" When jumping into a pool or lake or something. Japanese people do use it as a cheer, but using it like that can be, well onjectionable? Most Americans don't even know, but many hundreds of Japanese including mothers holding their infants jumped from the Banzai cliffs at the invasion of Saipan.

Conversely, in Japan, the slang term for a Polaroid camera is bakachon kamera. Many people use it without knowing the meaning is somewhat disparaging to people of Korean ancestry (literally means a camera that even an idiot or chonseijin (Korean) can use).

That's why language is so fascinating to me. Even within the English language it's wild how a word can sound the same as another but be so different in spelling and meaning. Anyway I am digressing.

I think Muggens has a political perspective that is influencing his judgement of this particular name, and he is 100% ignoring the fact that there are actual ingame references to drones which have nothing to do with U.S. military drones being used to slaughter people.

[Muggens]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is interesting how words can carry different meanings to people. Like in the US, it is not uncommon for little kids to shout "banzai!" When jumping into a pool or lake or something. Japanese people do use it as a cheer, but using it like that can be, well onjectionable? Most Americans don't even know, but many hundreds of Japanese including mothers holding their infants jumped from the Banzai cliffs at the invasion of Saipan.

Conversely, in Japan, the slang term for a Polaroid camera is bakachon kamera. Many people use it without knowing the meaning is somewhat disparaging to people of Korean ancestry (literally means a camera that even an idiot or chonseijin (Korean) can use).

Regarding this; I myself would never yell Banzai dropping into a pool, its clearly racist and have been tricked on to unknowning kids in the US. USA used to be very racist towards Japan and might still be I dont know.
But as we shall see this stuff always goes on a merry go round since Japanese people are perhaps known as one of the most racist peoples in the world, no doubt. Ive not personally been there, but I was a japanophile during my late teens early twenties, and several of my family and friends have been there and have experienced the Gaijin term etc. I know from uni and private studies that japans treatment and stance towards China is nothing to write home about either. Considering how long they refused to open themselves up to the rest of the world its not a suprise.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Muggens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Regarding this; I myself would never yell Banzai dropping into a pool, its clearly racist and have been tricked on to unknowning kids in the US. USA used to be very racist towards Japan and might still be I dont know.
But as we shall see this stuff always goes on a merry go round since Japanese people are perhaps known as one of the most racist peoples in the world, no doubt. Ive not personally been there, but I was a japanophile during my late teens early twenties, and several of my family and friends have been there and have experienced the Gaijin term etc. I know from uni and private studies that japans treatment and stance towards China is nothing to write home about either. Considering how long they refused to open themselves up to the rest of the world its not a suprise.

Well, since we generalizing I also always heard the Japanese have small peckers. I never personally seen one, but it's just what I heard.

[Salahdin]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, since we generalizing I also always heard the Japanese have small peckers. I never personally seen one, but it's just what I heard.

I seen many Japaneses peckers and I can confirm the have small Sushi rolls.