Questions about starting a casual warrior.

[OriginalContentGuy]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've read all sorts of contradictory info on proc rates - that it is a linear increase with dex, that it is a staggered increase every 50 starting at 105. I have no idea what is correct (neither in classic timeline nor for whatever the implementation is here).

What is the theory or data behind the 175 sweet spot? I've never read that one before.

I remember reading on the wiki about proc rates and dex. The research I read at the time indicated that going to 175 dex is the sweet spot because beyond that it's diminishing returns. Going from ~110 to 175 was a very large difference in average proc rate in my own experience. So while not claiming to know the exact formula I will still posit that 175 dex was vastly superior to 110 (and sweet).

[Goregasmic]

Yeah, I don't think that's possible with EC gear. Been down that rabbit hole before

Cobalt bp +12
Matchless legs +13
Maelstrom cloak +10
2x silver chitin wrists + 14.

So 49dex without really sacrificing anything. You could spend an extra 18k to swap maelstrom for COF and RBB which would net you 9dex i think. And then swap blood runed gauntlets for gauntlets of fiery might, you lose like 14ac for 7dex for a total of 16.

So 65 dex if im not missing anything. As an ogre you start with 70, 77 if you cap sta and dump the balance in dex so it brings you to 142. Probably could get to 150 with minor pieces.

if you don't have the budget for mithril gloves or WDG/HoRZ that's about it if you're not grouped with a shaman. Not sure if the 175 buffed is buffed or not.

[Vexenu]

If you're mostly soloing you won't gain much from procs anyway, at least until 50 when you can start proccing Truncheon of Doom. You're better off just maximizing your DPS, and for gear keeping a balance between AC/HP/STR. If you have enough HP to reliably kill blue cons while staying berserk, you'll have a good time.

[kjs86z2]

i wouldnt worry about dex / procs at all - white damage is king

id use staff of battle if it meant having a fungi and seahorse belt

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I don't think that's possible with EC gear. Been down that rabbit hole before

Cobalt bp +12
Matchless legs +13
Maelstrom cloak +10
2x silver chitin wrists + 14.

So 49dex without really sacrificing anything. You could spend an extra 18k to swap maelstrom for COF and RBB which would net you 9dex i think. And then swap blood runed gauntlets for gauntlets of fiery might, you lose like 14ac for 7dex for a total of 16.

So 65 dex if im not missing anything. As an ogre you start with 70, 77 if you cap sta and dump the balance in dex so it brings you to 142. Probably could get to 150 with minor pieces.

if you don't have the budget for mithril gloves or WDG/HoRZ that's about it if you're not grouped with a shaman. Not sure if the 175 buffed is buffed or not.

You could get 6 DEX from https://wiki.project1999.com/Ayillish%27s_Talisman . Not buyable in EC directly, but easy enough to get in a guild, or paying for loot rights. A Torpor Shaman can solo Ayillish, and she spawns every 8 hours I think. I have sold loot rights on blue before.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Fancy_Velvet_Mantle is a good dex piece for melees with +9 DEX. You'd only lose 5 STR, 5 STA, and 3 AC when unequipping Barbed Dragonscale Pauldrons. Shoulder armor generally has lower stats anyway. I use this on my monk.

If you don't mind swapping gear in a fight, https://wiki.project1999.com/Overseer%60s_Signet put on 2x of these once you lose the 130 HP from your 6/65 rings for another 16 DEX. These rings have higher AC too at 8 AC each.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Twisted_Bone_Earring is also a decent earring since it has 5 DEX, 5 AC, and 20HP. Unless you buy loot rights for Hammered Golden Loops, you're probably using something like Orc Fang Earrings anyway.

So you could easily get another 30 to 36 DEX without any major sacrifices. And price-wise all of this is a lot cheaper than mithril gauntlets.

[sammoHung]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As an ogre you start with 70

theres your issue. dwarf start with 90

[OriginalContentGuy]

Everything DSM listed I agree with; on top of that there's also +DEX to be had in the face slot; the Grotesque Alloy Mask and Eyepatch of the Shadows are tunnel obtainable. And if the idea of swapping rings during a fight just seems like something you don't want ([You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.])just wear one Overseer's Signet permanently or until you upgrade.

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

theres your issue. dwarf start with 90

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[kjs86z2]

imagine swapping rings in combat

[OriginalContentGuy]

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[Keebz]

I wouldn't bother with DEX. The obtainable procing weapons while leveling aren't worth it relative to the sheer DPS of EC weapons. WESS and Infestation are nerfed. Frostbringer is OK, but terrible main hand, so you're getting pretty mid value. Meanwhile Reaver is 4k and Staff of Battle is free. Once you're raiding, you just get a cheap primal 2h and DEX never matters again.

DEX is a much bigger deal on a fresh server where you have to wave Yaks and Obsidian Shards around and pretend like you're useful. It stays somewhat helpful through Kunark and then stops being relevant in Velious.