P99 Raiding Guide (moved)

[booter]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So they bragged about killing Gore with 30 people when they were using a blatant exploit? As hasbinbad would say, "oh the irony".

What exploit were we using? I want to know!

Dispelling a dispellable debuff?

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by booter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What exploit were we using? I want to know!

Dispelling a dispellable debuff?

While I'm not sure if it was dispel-able at all in classic, what I am sure of is that the strategy takes advantage of the Songs window and the fact that songs don't go to the main buff window here like they did in classic. So you get to have 166 extra MR and 83 CR from bard songs while at the same time being able to dispel detrimental buffs in the top two slots of your main buff window, when you should only be able to do one of those things at most. In classic, either the Bard songs would get dispelled because they'd be occupying those slots in the main buff window, or the Bard would have to begin casting his resist songs really early while those two slots were occupied (and then later clicked off), making this strategy fall apart if ever the Bard has to go afk, or drops a song while they're twisting, or gets feared, etc. If this worked as intended it would also mean that Bards wouldn't be able to play Alenia's Disenchanting Melody at the same time as reliably since they'd have other songs they'd need to flawlessly twist at the same time. Basically, subject to classic conditions, this method would be so complicated and unreliable that you would just default to stacking resists and hoping for the best.

I'm not saying that TR should be punished in any way for this (they aren't the only guild to have used this method anyhow), but that bragging over a 30 person Gore kill is really disingenuous when you had to abuse a flaw with the client to accomplish it.

Probably the using duel to dispel the buff, since you can only dispel yourself normally.

Dueling has nothing to do with it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ennoia]

Originally Posted by bakkily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the only thing that takes skill, is to kill soandso named tough mob, with the least amount of people, but i havnt seen a tr raid, and from what ive heard/read, they do it in numbers

False statement, at least from my experience. The only times we had the massive zerg force is when 2 other guilds were competing in zone for CT and we wanted to get the pull. Otherwise is was usually less than 40 people, sometimes less than 30, per target.

You're right though, early EQ raiding was all tank and spank, with the only skill required being from people being on the right targets, and healers keeping people up from the AE. Real raid mechanics don't start until much later on, and when they do, the game locked the raid numbers to 54 people per raid.

[baalzy]

There is no try, only loot.

[Supaskillz]

isn't this info avail in 500 other places?

[Doors]

Yeah call me in for it. I want to see the mad skill involved in everquest raids.

[Trimm]

Divinity, Dark Ascension, Divinity, Transatlantic Rampage, _________ ?

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Trimm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Divinity, Dark Ascension, Divinity, Transatlantic Rampage, _________ ?

I see what you did there.

[Doors]

Someone should just make a guild called 'Mad Skill'. Since all these raids are cutting edge afterall. Deciding if you need to click 1 or 3 at the right time can mean the difference between a wipe or not.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Doors [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Someone should just make a guild called 'Mad Skill'. Since all these raids are cutting edge afterall. Deciding if you need to click 1 or 3 at the right time can mean the difference between a wipe or not.

pause 30, doors. I SAID PAUSE THIRTY GODDAMNIT