ok, so did Donald Trump win or lose in this election?

[katrik]

If the house was flipped, what exactly would you call it?

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by katrik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the house was flipped, what exactly would you call it?

losing control of the house is a huge victory for strong daddy tromp

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[ScaringChildren]

It's expected to lose something in the midterms.

Who holds onto all 3 branches for a full term? Not a lot.

The media has been hyping this election up for more than two years and this is what happens?

I'd say that's a victory for Trump.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's expected to lose something in the midterms.

Who holds onto all 3 branches for a full term? Not a lot.

The media has been hyping this election up for more than two years and this is what happens?

I'd say that's a victory for Trump.

sir stop yelling at the tv

[loramin]

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's expected to lose something in the midterms.

It's also expected that when when the economy is going well the party in power does well. If we're measuring things by historical expectations, given how well the economy is doing the Democratic wins in this election are unprecedented. Trump is just hated so much that he's even alienated the people who would normally be like "well I don't agree with him but he made the economy do well so I'll support him."

And, as a side note, no one should care about the current economy when it comes to politics: when you actually understand how big the economy is and how many different actors are involved, it becomes incredibly obvious that neither President or Congress (whatever party control them) have very much direct control over the current economy. Or even all that much indirect control. And what control they do have is mostly felt years later, so the average voter is almost always blaming the wrong people for the current economic state.

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's also expected that when when the economy is going well the party in power does well. If we're measuring things by historical expectations, given how well the economy is doing the Democratic wins in this election are unprecedented. Trump is just hated so much that he's even alienated the people who would normally be like "well I don't agree with him but he made the economy do well so I'll support him."

And, as a side note, no one should care about the current economy when it comes to politics: when you actually understand how big the economy is and how many different actors are involved, it becomes incredibly obvious that neither President or Congress (whatever party control them) have very much direct control over the current economy. Or even all that much indirect control. And what control they do have is mostly felt years later, so the average voter is almost always blaming the wrong people for the current economic state.

So are you crediting Trump with the good economy...or not?

[America]

i think i'm with scaringchildren on this one.

convince me otherwise and u may win my heart

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by America [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i think i'm with scaringchildren on this one.

convince me otherwise and u may win my heart

No. I prefer you as you are. Free.

[Nixtar]

Orange Cartman won because he didn't lose big enough? Sounds like the mindset of a loser.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Nixtar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Orange Cartman won because he didn't lose big enough? Sounds like the mindset of a loser.

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