Iskar SK - starting stats

[Troxx]

Grouping:

INT: in a well oiled group, having a chanter to clarity you is far more important than total mana
Str: in a well oiled group, you have shaman buff str. If not, your dps contribution is negligible.
Agi: borderline worthless as long as you're over the 75 mark
Dex: awesome proc or proc buff? Situationally useful
Stam: with a competent healer 20 stamina really means nothing

Raiding:

INT: won't make a huge difference
Str: you have raid str buffs
Agi: again, worthless past 75
Dex: shaman buffs, possibly worth something
Stam: you won't be tanking anything where 20 more stamina is worth shit

Solo:

INT: more mana, but more med time
Str: if your gear sucks, it makes a difference
Agi: again, worthless past 75
Dex: depending on weapon/buff, possibly worth it
Stam: not super important

Take home point? Starting stats mean little. They are MOST valuable when you choose stats that don't favor the end game and raid level gear. You benefit a lot levels 1-59. End game? Stamina/Dex or INT.

Biggest take home point: don't sweat starting stats, they really are not all that important. Depending on the $$ spent twinking - dex/int is where I'd be most tempted to put it as an iksar sk.

[Samoht]

Don't put starting points into stats that are easily maxed out with gear or buffs. Focus + STR buff + DEX buff = maxed out STR and DEX. Boon + any DEX buff = maxed out DEX. STA buff and you're still under 200? Yeah, put points into STA.

[Cecily]

It's everquest, stats don't matter. Not like SKs tank anything.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's everquest, stats don't matter.

We both know that's not true.

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not like SKs tank anything.

Except trash, particularly adds that are unexpected.

[Cecily]

No, I honestly feel that way. Realistically, there's no 20 point stat distribution that will have a noticeable in game effect.
An endgame 20 CHA SK will be just as useful as any other.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, I honestly feel that way. Realistically, there's no 20 point stat distribution that will have a noticeable in game effect.
An endgame 20 CHA SK will be just as useful as any other.

Well then you're just giving straight-up terrible advice here. At 60, 20 STA should be worth 104 HP on an SK. That's more than a Djarns. Everybody who wears a Djarns should just delete them and only play with one ring because Cecily says they're worthless. Unless of course you're wearing a HP ring in the other slot, too, and then you have to delete that one as well and wear no rings. Because 104 HP is worthless.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well then you're just giving straight-up terrible advice here. At 60, 20 STA should be worth 104 HP on an SK. That's more than a Djarns. Everybody who wears a Djarns should just delete them and only play with one ring because Cecily says they're worthless. Unless of course you're wearing a HP ring in the other slot, too, and then you have to delete that one as well and wear no rings. Because 104 HP is worthless.

And therefore anyone who could play an ogre but doesn't play an ogre has immediately lost EQ and cannot possibly be successful? I mean -- you've never seen a human, barbarian, hobbit, or dwarf warrior survive tanking rough encounters right?

There are smarter choices and dumber choices with where to put your starting stats, but Cecily is right. 20 starting stats means surprisingly little - especially at the end game.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And therefore anyone who could play an ogre but doesn't play an ogre has immediately lost EQ and cannot possibly be successful? I mean -- you've never seen a human, barbarian, hobbit, or dwarf warrior survive tanking rough encounters right?

There are smarter choices and dumber choices with where to put your starting stats, but Cecily is right. 20 starting stats means surprisingly little - especially at the end game.

You also are debating with a guy that thinks iksar are better than ogre. We all know if you can play ogre you pick ogre when min/maxing.

Ogre > all.

He doesn't even follow his own advice by choosing the inferior race (stat-wise).

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You also are debating with a guy that thinks iksar are better than ogre. We all know if you can play ogre you pick ogre when min/maxing.

Ogre > all.

I'd take iksar over ogre any day.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well then you're just giving straight-up terrible advice here. At 60, 20 STA should be worth 104 HP on an SK. That's more than a Djarns. Everybody who wears a Djarns should just delete them and only play with one ring because Cecily says they're worthless. Unless of course you're wearing a HP ring in the other slot, too, and then you have to delete that one as well and wear no rings. Because 104 HP is worthless.

I stick to my argument. 100 hp doesn't really matter all that much. Delete every DJ Arn's ring on the server and... not much would change.