Lord Nagafen & Lady Vox status (post 52 restriction)

[Mcbard]

Lol ya, the guy dropping racial slurs and the bickering back and forth has sure turned this into an informative thread.

[Glitch]

Originally Posted by Tibador [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because maybe some good will come out of this instead of throwing in to that hole of retardation called RnF.

Aw, Tibs. come join the RnF party~

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Tibador [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because maybe some good will come out of this instead of throwing in to that hole of retardation called RnF.

I was honestly hoping for the same thing but it didn't happen despite giving poeple infractions.

Originally Posted by Supaskillz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

part of this thread belongs in bugs (naggy is not banishing)

This sums up the part that was useful.

Originally Posted by Supaskillz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and most of it belongs in R&F

This sums up the rest.

Originally Posted by Mcbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol ya, the guy dropping racial slurs and the bickering back and forth has sure turned this into an informative thread.

My thoughts exactly. So be it!

[Skope]

Originally Posted by karsten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well I of course enjoy more xzerion as opposed to less xzerion, but the fact is that despite large amounts of people bitching that they'd like us to play differently than we do such that they get more things from the zero sum game of raid bosses in eq, our officer corps and as a general rule by extension our member group do play by the mantra he mentioned in the earlier quote.

The fact is that when more than one person wants one single item, not everyone is going to get it. I can certainly pledge that when you deal with me or any of my constituents you will get as fierce as competition that I can throw at you, with as little douchebaggery as possible. If that doesn't jive with you then i don't know what to tell you.

Karsten, I've had personal interactions with some of your officers (and members) that would prove otherwise. You guys have a habit of grandfathering your dickheads into officer positions, and that's more than hot air. You need only look at the recent fiasco with taken over naggy -- both the fact that you apparently didn't report the bug (and exploited it for weeks) but also that that sort of thing even happened. You can say you live up to what Xzerion claims, and perhaps you try, but at the moment you're straying further and further from what you claim. Hell, why all the bitching at TMO? Instead of having officer(s) from both guilds chat about it beforehand, you guys keep your mouths shut, knowing full well there's gonna be a problem sooner or later and then call the GMs in to clean up the mess you didn't care to avoid. All it takes is a few tells and conceding a little bit in order to not cause a shitstorm, but no. Uthgaard isn't backing up his tough talk either. Had he meant the shit he says about GM workload and involvement and not being douchebags both of your guilds would've been banned for 2-3 weeks from raiding entirely. And then there's the interactions that both I and other div members have had with Kinsawt, Wonton, Swarws, Trystych, Mady, and on, and on, and on. If you really want a list of what I've seen personally and what I've heard from div members then you need only send me a tell in-game.

I could give 2 shits about the items and quit assuming it's about loot, that's your TR showing. I play for the funzies.

just quit being assholes. Unfortunately you'll keep being assholes unless someone stomps on your foot and takes away what you love most, and that's your pretty little pixels. Right now raiding is about poopsocking, rule-skirting, bitching about a guild who does the exact things you criticize them for and general douchebag behavior and you're one of the two culprits

[Ektar]

THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS

[Skope]

since this is in RnF now...

Uthgaard, reading that little pastebin suckfest between the 2 TMO/TR officers and you was like reading a gay penthouse story. Just 3 grown men with their mouths attached to each others scrotums and a lot of weird sexual tension in the air. Seriously, start enforcing that "douchebag" rule or edit the thread and get rid of it.

[Harrison]

Hey guys, remember when Nilbog came in and said you guys were being fucking douchebags?

I do.

[Tiggles]

Hey!

This thread is in RnF.

Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by karsten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

our officer corps and as a general rule by extension our member group do play by the mantra he mentioned in the earlier quote.

Originally Posted by karsten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

with as little douchebaggery as possible.

Good. Then stop leapfrogging. You can make the case for CT up to a certain point, depending on how much of Fear had been cleared by the guild you're about to snipe him from, but other than that...

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If Xzerion wasn't talking out his ass about expecting TR to take the high road, and you aren't talking out of your ass here, then effective immediately, your guild should stop leapfrogging/sniping targets out from other guilds. Let them attempt. Don't interfere. They out-mobilized you fair and square. THAT is the competition you said you wanted. Feel free to grab the mob after they fail. There would be a lot more respect for the top guilds around here, the server raid scene wouldn't be so miserable, and you might actually have to work to out-mobilize instead of falling back on "No matter, we'll just rush past them and gank Naggy while they pull the last FGs."

I highly suspect you guys are just all talk though about the "higher road" thing, amirite? Because leapfrogging is not the higher road. Once more for good measure from the Project Manager of P99:

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[booter]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good. Then stop leapfrogging. You can make the case for CT up to a certain point, depending on how much of Fear had been cleared by the guild you're about to snipe him from, but other than that...

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If Xzerion wasn't talking out his ass about expecting TR to take the high road, and you aren't talking out of your ass here, then effective immediately, your guild should stop leapfrogging/sniping targets out from other guilds. Let them attempt. Don't interfere. They out-mobilized you fair and square. THAT is the competition you said you wanted. Feel free to grab the mob after they fail. There would be a lot more respect for the top guilds around here, the server raid scene wouldn't be so miserable, and you might actually have to work to out-mobilize instead of falling back on "No matter, we'll just rush past them and gank Naggy while they pull the last FGs."

I highly suspect you guys are just all talk though about the "higher road" thing, amirite? Because leapfrogging is not the higher road. Once more for good measure from the Project Manager of P99:

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I think the problem with CT is that our strategy legitimately involves killing as little trash as possible, whether or not another guild is in fear. When it is an empty zone, we have killed Draco and CT and are porting out sometimes within 15 minutes of zoning in. Just because a guild zoned in first does not mean they get to take a few hours, clear the zone, etc. It's the nature of this zone/encounter.

Surely we are not the only guild capable of this strategy. And before people scream zomg zerg, we do this with mid 20s/low 30s.

Otherwise, I agree with you/your sentiments most of the time on targets like Naggy etc.