ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyway, what I took from that episode:
1. Leaf said Bran will leave the cave. That's news to me...
2. Can't wait to see Wyman Manderly WTFPWN Ramsay by defecting to Jon at the decisive moment
3. If that dragon / Tyrion scene occurred in the books, id believe 100% that he has Targ blood. That said, I don't think Dan and Dave are smart enough

1. you and me both. i never expected bran to leave, simply because it seems Bloodraven has never left. will be interesting.

2. im very happy Wyman Manderly will be in the show. i was worried itd just be the fams weve already seen (Karstarks & Umbers). here's to hoping we get them meat pies later on! (in the trailer theres a scene with freys and lannister troops in the same hall as the red wedding. i'm HOPING thats when we see some meat pies.

3. why? Nettles was a straight up dragon rider (having tamed the dragon known as Sheepstealer), and Nettles had not one once of Targ blood

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. you and me both. i never expected bran to leave, simply because it seems Bloodraven has never left. will be interesting.

2. im very happy Wyman Manderly will be in the show. i was worried itd just be the fams weve already seen (Karstarks & Umbers). here's to hoping we get them meat pies later on! (in the trailer theres a scene with freys and lannister troops in the same hall as the red wedding. i'm HOPING thats when we see some meat pies.

3. why? Nettles was a straight up dragon rider (having tamed the dragon known as Sheepstealer), and Nettles had not one once of Targ blood

I love Wyman. That line about "he would've grown up to be a Frey" is the best part of a dance with dragons IMO. My favorite line in the series I think. Also, I think in both book and show he will decisively own the Boltons

As for nettles, I thought she was a Targaryen bastard. I could be wrong though. TBH, I was basing my opinion on the dragons liking brown Ben plumm in the books. I hadn't gone that far back for research. Regardless, I didn't like Tyrion freeing the dragons. Tyrion mans up when needed, but that just struck me as foolish.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Mandalore93 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nettles was a bastard of either the Targ or Velaryon lines.

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As for nettles, I thought she was a Targaryen bastard. I could be wrong though. TBH, I was basing my opinion on the dragons liking brown Ben plumm in the books. I hadn't gone that far back for research. Regardless, I didn't like Tyrion freeing the dragons. Tyrion mans up when needed, but that just struck me as foolish.

first, we can only assume Ben Plumm is a Targ if you trust Ben Plumm. Ben's mom was Dothraki, and his mom's mom was from further east. his dad we dont know about, but Ben claims to be a lot of things "Ben says he is part Braavosi, Summer Islander, Ibbenese, Qohorik, Dornish, Dothraki, and Westerosi. He claims to have a drop of Targaryen blood"

Nettles was only 16 when the Dance of the Dragons started, and while some claimed to have old ancient Targ blood, it seems much more likely they'd say anything they needed to have a chance to tame a dragon if thats what they wanted. but at only 16, i feel like they'd know whose bastard she was if she was from Aegon's line (granted she could be a bastard Targ from hundreds or years ago, but that would fall into the "well technically anything is possible" realm. she had brown skin, black hair, and black eyes. almost the complete opposite of Targ features.

as for Tyrion, it was foolish. they acknowledge that with the comment Tyrion makes to Varys about punching Tyrion in the face. but either way, i hear you [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

seems they are really just rushing through certain "check points" as fast as possible to just move the story along.

[Fael]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. you and me both. i never expected bran to leave, simply because it seems Bloodraven has never left. will be interesting.

Me either.

However, there is a scene in the season preview trailer that has the Night's King (or whoever he is) sneak up behind Bran when he is outside of the cave.

But it also looks like Bran is walking in that scene. So it could just be a confrontation between the two in the dream world, which could get interesting... or it could just be Bran observing the Night King doing what he does, whether in the present or some time in the past.

[holahouze]

Just had a chance to re-watch.
>> I think the doorway Tyrion uses is large enough for each dragon to squeeze through. Though they seem to have other plans at the moment.
>> Tyrion has hurdled the big Quentyn moment, right? Set up for Tyrion as a Targ (you're no son of mine).
>> I also was surprised when Leaf told Meera that Bran wouldn't be staying in cave. I'm not sure what all that means, but ITB I fear he's stuck there.
>> Hodor/Nairn needs to negotiate a personal trainer into his contract. Definitely showing signs of struggle picking Bran Muffin up.
>> I think Sansa's scenes this season have been real effective. big step up in acting.
>> For those who didn't care for Mel's role in resurrection, please feel free to join my fantasy that Ghost stirring right before Jon awakens is significant.
>> Yep, I think Yara/Asha takes on Victarian role in Mereen. More character consolidation/substitution.
>> Ramsay's hounds seem appropriately vicious. WTF happened to them when they had Sansa and Theon cornered?
>> I don't understand the showrunners ignoring certain small details - like Bloodraven being an Albino and his birthmark, and Euron only have one eye. Interrupts my vibe.

I liked the episode better the 2nd time around.

[AenorVZ]

#TeamGhost

Also, if anyone interrogates the showrunners about what the dragons were doing, they could say there was food toward the back of the hall that the dragons will now eat because they're happy to have their collars off. One of my initial nitpicks was that Tyrion probably looked like a good snack to them if they were not that hungry. After about four watches I think we got some real smart dragons here. Also agree they going out the front door.

[Safon]

Wyman is a boss, high hopes for him, Davos and Stannis (though the latter is likely boned/doomed to fail/die somehow)

[JurisDictum]

I feel guilty about how hilarious I find the scenes of blind Aria getting beat up. In the books, this was given more thin treatment. The timeline also seems considerably altered.

Edit: I hope the books do a better job than the show when it comes to Ruse Bolton's murder. It seemed kind of random in the show.

[Mandalore93]

Nettles was a bastard of either the Targ or Velaryon lines.

[AenorVZ]

Yo Sirk episode four will be a side trip for Ned to return the ancestral swords, Dawn and Dusk, to Starfall.