Victim disarmament zones

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by aowen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

... and they are involved in nefarious activity in regards to their sale and distribution.

What do you think would happen if guns were suddenly illegal? The criminals would still have them anyway so obviously the normal, law-abiding citizens would be screwed. They would either be forced to buy guns illegally or just sit around waiting for other people to handle any problems. Sorry, but depending too much on the cops or the government to take care of me just sounds ridiculous. I was raised to depend on myself and no one else.

That doesn't mean I go around in public with my weapon. I can't speak for those folks who do, that's up to them. I keep mine at home, locked up.

[Ryba]

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What do you think would happen if guns were suddenly illegal? The criminals would still have them anyway so obviously the normal, law-abiding citizens would be screwed.

That would be a great argument to use against someone who was suggesting making all guns illegal, i.e. a totally different conversation.

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by Ryba [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That would be a great argument to use against someone who was suggesting making all guns illegal, i.e. a totally different conversation.

Ok, Aowen did say that he didn't really have anything against shotguns. But the rest of it, including my cute little .38, he would be against. That means he would love it if it was illegal to own anything but a shotgun. So, I think I still have a good argument. Pls correct me if I am wrong, Aowen.

By the way, are you aware of the damage a shotgun would do if a person were shot at a pretty close range with one? I think I would rather take a shot from a .38 because the chance I would still have a face left is definitely better.

[FoxxHound]

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[runlvlzero]

Gun belongs on the fire place mantle. Ya'll too dumb to teach your kids about gun safety and your neighbors to ignorant to deal with it.

Ya'll deserver to be disarmed and raped and pillaged.

[runlvlzero]

And goddamnit, is a damn right that we shoot them assholes that show up threatening our lives and livelyhood. Its called natural selection. Its called the power being in our hands rather than 30 minutes away, and in the hands of some donut munching moron who probably doesn't want to even put their life on the line for yours.

America deserves what it is gonna get.

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by aowen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like drugs, but other people don't so I'm not allowed to do them. Why? Because they are deemed dangerous when I use them, as I might hurt myself or other people, and they are involved in nefarious activity in regards to their sale and distribution. More complex because a lot of people also mean to do good with guns, however one might add seldom do people use drugs explicitly to kill other people, but the root of the controversy is same principle essentially.

Nah, just that most drugs are illegal causing the problems with shady dealers and distribution channels. Most drugs are not endangering to society as a whole. And those that are, are only in certain circumstances (Driving Drunk).

The same can be applied to guns to. They are perfectly fine when people are trained to operate and use them in the appropriate situations and when they are distributed equally.

Death happens. Guns don't increase your chances of dieing. Anyone can kill you with anything they want to. Taking them away doesn't make it any harder for some psycho to kill you. With their illegally obtained gun, knife, bat, brick, or with their bare hands, poison, arson, bombs, etc...

Live in fear of personal power and freedom all you want. Everyone should have a level playing field with each other and their government. Yet you cannot trust one group to hold power over another. It has bad results every single time.

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by aowen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Owning a gun for self-defense to me indicates you have at least thought enough about someone breaking and doing bad things to you to justify spending a few hundred minimum, which would require a level of fear greater than is really needed, for a scenario that usually does not play out the way people envision.

Originally Posted by aowen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All these people are super scurred someone is gonna come kill them, esp the chicago south side.

Originally Posted by aowen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think a part of this debate that is missing too is that not all guns are equal. Most people, including myself, don't have a problem if people want to keep a shotgun around for defense. Shotguns can't be concealed and are effective at home defense. They are also more difficult to use to kill massive amounts of people when someone decides to lose their shit. Pistols and assault weapons are the real point of contention, pistols because they are exclusively used to kill people and can be concealed, assault weapons for obvious reasons.

You seem drunk, no offense. What ya drinking?

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And goddamnit, is a damn right that we shoot them assholes that show up threatening our lives and livelyhood. Its called natural selection. Its called the power being in our hands rather than 30 minutes away, and in the hands of some donut munching moron who probably doesn't want to even put their life on the line for yours.

America deserves what it is gonna get.

[runlvlzero]

Lastly prohibition did not work and was probably the most damaging thing to this country in the last 50 years outside of shady corporate lobbyists and government granted monopolies.

A prohibition on guns is going to result in 100x the amount of organized crime and corruption at all levels of society.

You don't need science to cite that shit. Its obvious to the plain dumb stupid as rocks proles who aren't brainwashed.

[Hasbinbad]

I say more guns to women, less guns to men.