@Sirken "a fair and legitimate chance at that target"

[stifling]

Thank you to those who actually want to propose solutions instead is bullshit whine for what they feel entitled to.

I think that what CSG was able to accomplish during the first round of bannings a few weeks ago was a great model... IE, any kind of rotation that is agreed upon by the guilds involved is awesome.

[Pan]

Originally Posted by stifling [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think that what CSG was able to accomplish during the first round of bannings a few weeks ago was a great model... IE, any kind of rotation that is agreed upon by the guilds involved is awesome.

Getsome (of Rustle) deserves the lion's share of the credit on all the sharing deals that have been cut on the recent bans...just for the record.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Locking them permanently is dumb. Maybe every 90 days the select mobs get rotated for a cycle.

Meh. We shall have to disagree then. There are certain mobs that won't ever get rotated. Just like it was in Class C/R days. VP was locked off. It's logical that the very tip top content should be in the hardcore neckbeard wheelhouse only. It's one of the draws for these guilds to recruit.

For a regular old player not having access to the mobs listed they can still get Flowing Thought and nearly BiS weapons and nearly BiS gear in most every slot. Not that gear really matters. For many they just want to have a scheduled time they can show up in NToV and kill Feshlak and Dagarn for example.

[Fasttimes]

Originally Posted by Bigmoneybabybaby [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doubtful. When those two runners in one guild still dominate the whole competition. Then this will become a problem. Quality always > quantity.

Rustle has decent runners

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Meh. We shall have to disagree then. There are certain mobs that won't ever get rotated. Just like it was in Class C/R days. VP was locked off. It's logical that the very tip top content should be in the hardcore neckbeard wheelhouse only. It's one of the draws for these guilds to recruit.

For a regular old player not having access to the mobs listed they can still get Flowing Thought and nearly BiS weapons and nearly BiS gear in most every slot. Not that gear really matters. For many they just want to have a scheduled time they can show up in NToV and kill Feshlak and Dagarn for example.

But velious was always on the horizon, now this is it. Locking mobs behind shitbaggery with no future in perpetuity doesn't make sense.

[Daldaen]

Limiting runners benefits no one. Still you have to shit in a sock for 16 hours until Zlexak spawns.

If you could get Rogean to reduce Variance to 2 hours on the condition everyone agrees to only 2 runners, every guild would sign onboard to this agreement immediately.

Simultaneously reducing the staffs concern about poopsocking numbers being massive and leveling the playing field atleast number wise.

[Fasttimes]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Limiting runners benefits no one. Still you have to shit in a sock for 16 hours until Zlexak spawns.

If you could get Rogean to reduce Variance to 2 hours on the condition everyone agrees to only 2 runners, every guild would sign onboard to this agreement immediately.

Simultaneously reducing the staffs concern about poopsocking numbers being massive and leveling the playing field atleast number wise.

It does help tho. You don't have to compete with current rules vs 30. It actually would be even more skill based which A/A seems to love. Put your best 2 on the line stagger your sow refresh. Hey and less dkp you have to give afk warm bodies on the line.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Fasttimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It does help tho. You don't have to compete with current rules vs 30. It actually would be even more skill based which A/A seems to love. Put your best 2 on the line stagger your sow refresh. Hey and less dkp you have to give afk warm bodies on the line.

That doesn't quell the casuals prime complaint. Sitting on a line for 16 hours waiting for a target to spawn is dumb. It does quell the staffs prime complaint, rampant poopsocking leading to in some cases zone desynchs and server instability. Which should lead to them removing their custom Variance which was designed on purpose to stop the former issue.

But nothing they've done has ever indicated they're willing to reduce Variance even if the guilds come together to agreed to reducing poopsocking which I think they all will do unanimously if Variance reduction is on the table. Especially since the racing rules make it largely irrelevant.

[Fasttimes]

I mean if you know they won't reduce variance and do more sim repops. You know A/A hates rotations. Atleast limiting runners evens things out some. What else can we do?

[saujee]

Racing vs Rotations
what are the pros and cons of each?