Spells: 100 MR to resist MR nuke. 350 FR to reduce FR nuke.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Technique [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rend has no pushback in any classic (original/kunark/velious) spdat nor even on Live.

Better get that spell file in your head checked.

He posts a lot of misinformation, I decided to put him on ignore.

Go for that and stop quoting drivel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by derpcake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He posts a lot of misinformation, I decided to put him on ignore.

Go for that and stop quoting drivel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I put him on ignore long ago. Seems to either have 3 different ppl posting or multiple personalities.

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[Colgate]

for haynar, to get a bit of a better idea with some more concrete evidence:

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=103

posted on 06-05-2000

However by 50, our 500 point DD (retribution) is next to useless, it is so easy to resist. Most people you will be trying to kill with it, if theyre not completely inept, will be wearing a lot of throw away resistance gear. It only takes maybe 40 or 50 points of magic resistance and our spells will be doing next to no damage (maybe 100 dmg with luck, wont even dent a wizzie at that level).

also interesting find here:

One of the biggest, most crucial things I've learned is that our level 5 or 9 dd (i forget which, tho i think lvl 5) is called Furor...and it cost under 20 mana with a cast time of something like 1.5. This spell is amazing- it interrupts an opponents casting 9 out of 10 times as long as their backs are not to a wall. Unlike our stuns which I used to use to interrupt casters, this spell is almost never resisted and costs virtually no mana.

[Grimjaw]

ya furor was good

[Colgate]

seems like these low level MR based knockback/DD spells were almost unresistable(damage could be partial'd to hell though)

shock of lightning, shock of blades, furor, brusco's boastful bellow

[Mac Drettj]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

seems like these low level MR based knockback/DD spells were almost unresistable(damage could be partial'd to hell though)

shock of lightning, shock of blades, furor, brusco's boastful bellow

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

What about chaotic feedback? I remember hearing that one was nearly unresistable

[Technique]

Originally Posted by Yumyums Inmahtumtums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about chaotic feedback? I remember hearing that one was nearly unresistable

I can usually land chaotic feedback on pc's with 450+ mr, it stops spellcasting and spells, which is why I use it in combination with recant to strip bard buffs/songs

http://www.therunes.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=898

I chase them with this and constantly stun with Chaotic Feedback so I can score hits. CF hits pretty regularly even if you have 350 magic resist.

http://www.therunes.net/forums/viewt...hp?f=39&t=5942

Although these days it probably doesn't matter much, but cf used to be a huge agro draw since it has the stun component. (this was great in pvp cause the stun was never resisted)

http://www.therunes.net/forums/viewt...10709&start=50

At level 65 given ok gear the pally should have sufficient mr to stop near all your spells. No slow, no cripple, no nukes (cept the level 8 one -almost never resisted and interrupts).

http://www.therunes.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3805

Those quotes are all from 2003 onward, but I believe CF had always worked this way. I played an enchanter on SZ in 2001 and never recall it being partialed either. In all the classic spdats I've viewed, the spell is parsed differently than the other enchanter nukes, as a DoT with a 1 tick duration instead of a DD, which may have something to do with that.

Chaotic Feedback
DoT for between 43 (L8) to 48 (L13) Hit Points (HP) in 1 ticks
Stuns target

[Haynar]

Good lord this gets compkicated.

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[Nirgon]

I think what's happening here Haynar is kinda like the ac/atk changes.

Get a good base down then we can find a way to deal with 1 offs? There aren't too many.


For example: you nail down all the fire/cold/magic dd issues.

Then we give you lists of spells by category that should behave differently and what that should be.

IE:
->most issues resolved with base fix.
->We give a follow up of "these magic resist based spells should be nearly impossible to fully resist" and go from there (one off but grouped by behavior)